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re: USC Trojans...under NCAA Investigation for McKnight....again.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 3:05 pm to TigerBait2008
Posted on 9/4/12 at 3:05 pm to TigerBait2008
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Oh you couldn't be more wrong, but what else to expect from you..
How so?
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Posted on 9/4/12 at 3:54 pm to Baloo
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I just said SC is not the only program in a major metro area, and it's false to state they are.
It isn't just any major metro brah.
I didn't say they were in a major metro.
I said, they're in the "everyone wants to be a mover and star" ENTERTAINMENT CAPITAL of the America.
USC is in Los Angeles...
LOS ANGELES!!!!! Big Lights.
...and they're the big time program with the big time athletes in Los Angeles - which ain't like no place else...and it certainly isn't Baton Rouge or Norman cow pasture Okie. Nobody else has it like USC when it comes to potential trouble.
End of story.
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:01 pm to Baloo
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Do you have any idea how big of a town Austin is?
About 800k. About 3 million less people than L.A. And Detroit has about 700k. Notre Dame isnt in Chicago. Michigan isn't in Detroit. But point isn't just the size of the city, and I think you know this. Houston, Detroit, D.C.; these cities aren't major entertainment capitals that attract wannabe sports agents and other scum bags the way Los Angeles does. The only comparable city is New York. I'm not saying USC should get a pass because of this, but it should be taken into account.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:35 pm to Zamoro10
USC isn't even the only major college program in Los Angles. That is not "unique".
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:38 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
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Man some of you guys are really blinded by hate for USC. This guy Scott Schenter, the supplier or illegal benefits, is Washington Huskies fan. There are emails from him saying he hopes USC gets in trouble for this:
Makes absolutely no difference in the world. The REAL story lies in the fact USC has never wanted to keep a tight leash on its' athletic operations. It is a culture - Wait, where have we heard that recently - Maybe Happy Valley?
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:42 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
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but it should be taken into account.
I disagree wholeheartedly. You have advantages other schools don't so I guess they just need to keep a tighter leash on their program.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:43 pm to TemplarTheSaint
Please keep comparing pedophiles to a school where it's former AD turned a blind eye to its athletes getting preyed on by people outside the university trying to make a buck.
I still am not sure to what extent the NCAA will come down on USC now for this one. They already got them to an extreme for what went down under MG, and this just serves as further justification for the draconian sanctions. If this was a year or two ago, then we have a bigger story. IMO
I still am not sure to what extent the NCAA will come down on USC now for this one. They already got them to an extreme for what went down under MG, and this just serves as further justification for the draconian sanctions. If this was a year or two ago, then we have a bigger story. IMO
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:44 pm to Crow Pie
I read the article linked in the OP and this was all that jumped out at me:
Interdasting.
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USC wore red socks and red, yellow and silver football shoes for the first time in school history.
Interdasting.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:46 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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USC Trojans...under NCAA Investigation for McKnight....again.
frick USCPosted on 9/4/12 at 5:42 pm to SDwhodat
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Please keep comparing pedophiles to a school where it's former AD turned a blind eye to its athletes getting preyed on by people outside the university trying to make a buck.
Culture of Corruption
Blind eye meet Blind eye -
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:07 pm to TemplarTheSaint
All the NCAA snubbing left when our old AD got fired. That culture of non-compliance left with him. So there's that.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:10 pm to loweralabamatrojan
For football- If true, Haden will likely vacate wins from when JM was deemed ineligiible, dissociate SC from Joe, and add one year to the probation. No bowl ban or schollie reduction. NCAA, iMO, would take that.
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:11 pm to loweralabamatrojan
Here's an interesting article with an NCAA "expert", whatever that means.
LINK
LINK
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:20 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
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Here's an interesting article with an NCAA "expert", whatever that means.
I'd be fine with that too. After beefing up compliance, I don't see the repeat offender status. I could live with 1-2 schollie reductions when they return to full schollie status.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 7:09 pm to Zamoro10
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...and they're the big time program with the big time athletes in Los Angeles - which ain't like no place else...and it certainly isn't Baton Rouge or Norman cow pasture Okie. Nobody else has it like USC when it comes to potential trouble.
Assuming that is true, and I tend to lean more with Baloo on that stance, why should that mean USC gets more slack?
Lot of people would say considering USC's special circumstances they should have been monitoring closer than any team in the country.
Its a two part process. If you want the NCAA to lower it's expectations of compliance, then USC can't run around acting like they are in baton rouge or Norman.
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 9/4/12 at 7:12 pm to jacks40
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Lot of people would say considering USC's special circumstances they should have been monitoring closer than any team in the country.
they have been since 2010
Posted on 9/4/12 at 7:15 pm to jacks40
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My prediction is along the lines of the NCAA saying, 'You've done a lot of good things since this happened, and you've already kind of answered for this type of thing, even if it wasn't with these two athletes. So let's continue to see if this is going to work in Los Angeles. USC needs to start getting credit for the fact that their degree of difficulty is probably harder than anybody else's.
Former NCAA compliance officer, from the link posted above.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 7:21 pm to FightOn4ever
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they have been since 2010
And this incident allegedly happened before that. I have no clue what the NCAA will do with this but I'm not going to jump on the NCAA should punish USC less cause it's in L.A. for a violation that occurred before USC took proactive measures.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 7:26 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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C needs to start getting credit for the fact that their degree of difficulty is probably harder than anybody else's.
Also from that link
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s.' And reconciling that with 'Yeah, but you still have this violation you have to answer for.
And also that link above he gives prediction on some penalties which aren't all that bad but still more than "nothing will come of this" stuff that was at the start of this thread
Posted on 9/4/12 at 7:31 pm to jacks40
Not that the NCAA has ever given us reason to believe they operate under precedent, but I am not very concerned about this at all. The culture change the NCAA wanted all along has taken effect, the school is going above and beyond what other schools do in terms of fielding a compliance department, and McKnight's transgression predates all of that.
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