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re: Chain Lovers Alert, Red Lob, Olive Grdn Failing
Posted on 7/31/12 at 8:35 am to Tigertown in ATL
Posted on 7/31/12 at 8:35 am to Tigertown in ATL
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The "problem" is that there are just as many crappy local places as there are crappy chains.
So at least with a chain you know what you are getting even if it is mediocre.
There's a lot of truth to that as well, but if those are my only options, I personally would rather just stay home, cook, and eat better and cheaper at that.
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 8:45 am to Mike da Tigah
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There's a lot of truth to that as well, but if those are my only options, I personally would rather just stay home, cook, and eat better and cheaper at that.
I move in that direction more and more. Especially as I learn to cook better. With much help and inspiration from this board.
:eye tearing up:
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:34 am to Tigertown in ATL
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I move in that direction more and more. Especially as I learn to cook better. With much help and inspiration from this board.
:eye tearing up:
Yep
Two things I think will cause you to be much more discerning and put you off to food seved in many if not even most restaurants is exposure to really good food the way it's supposed to be done and getting food principles via becomming a real cook yourself where you may not be able to multi task but can do proper dishes as good or better than you can have at a local restaurant. That's what I've found to be the case for myself.
As in when I was a kid, I may have been impressed with McDonalds fries, once I had really amazing fresh fries and also learned how to cook them properly myself at home, those frozen fries just weren't too impressive anymore. I think as we mature in food so should our palate and skill level. Some have no interest in that at all, and so don't understand when people get on chains or criticize garbage food served at places they frequent. It's seen as hating or pretentious, or whatever you want to call it, but I see it as simply maturing as it pertains to food in general because it's your passion, and because you aren't the same person or cook or customer you were 5, 10, 15, or even 20 years ago as you are today.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:37 am to Mike da Tigah
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people get on chains or criticize garbage food served at places they frequent.
Like Rohan2Reed picking on me about Panda Express!
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:39 am to Mike da Tigah
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There's a lot of truth to that as well, but if those are my only options, I personally would rather just stay home, cook, and eat better and cheaper at that.
That's what we did in Wyoming
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:41 am to TulaneUVA
quote:Nothing new.
You guys are haters
quote:As do I.
I like OG and RL.
quote:This is a fact.
I still maintain that if you were served an above average dish from these restaurants at a local restaurant you would be saying "omg this is so much better!"
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:46 am to alajones
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This is a fact.
So sad.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:47 am to Tigertown in ATL
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The "problem" is that there are just as many crappy local places as there are crappy chains.
So at least with a chain you know what you are getting even if it is mediocre.
Yes that is somewhat true; but you also have to understand when it comes to comparing chains and local restaurants .. in some instances it's a case of not knowing how to properly season or cook food vs. serving customers meat byproducts and "food-like substances."
Two different animals. I'd rather pay for a meal at a local establishment that may miss the mark on flavor but at least it's someone trying to put out good food rather than paying for what I know is frozen, factory processed foodstuff.
*and yes I realize just because a restaurant is locally-owned that does not necessarily mean they get their food from local, organic farms.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:49 am to Rohan2Reed
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Rohan2Reed
Don't worry. I'm coming around.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:51 am to alajones
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I still maintain that if you were served an above average dish from these restaurants at a local restaurant you would be saying "omg this is so much better!"
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This is a fact.
is it?
Posted on 7/31/12 at 9:53 am to Rohan2Reed
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I still maintain that if you were served an above average dish from these restaurants at a local restaurant you would be saying "omg this is so much better!"
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This is a fact.
is it?
I do wonder how many of us could be that discriminating in a blind taste test. Perhaps you and others here could, but I'm not so sure about myself. It would be fun though.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:00 am to Tigertown in ATL
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I do wonder how many of us could be that discriminating in a blind taste test. Perhaps you and others here could, but I'm not so sure about myself. It would be fun though.
For S&G, what dish would you say is served at Olive Garden is above average and could be sold at a serious Italian restaurant and fool people?
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:05 am to Mike da Tigah
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what dish would you say is served at Olive Garden is above average and could be sold at a serious Italian restaurant and fool people?
I don't know what S&G is, but I will answer.
First, I haven't been to Olive Garden in years. And if I went there, no way I would admit it here.
Second, I don't really know the answer to your question. I just don't know I can discriminate that well.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:35 am to Mike da Tigah
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For S&G, what dish would you say is served at Olive Garden is above average and could be sold at a serious Italian restaurant and fool people?
Don't know S&G means either, but I'll also chime in...
I obviously have not eaten every dish and ranked them...I've eaten there probably 4 times in my life. But in a hypothetical, if you took an above average dish with respect to what is available at OG and brought it to, let's say, DiGiulio's...I don't think you would say "ew, gross...terrible". That's my point. You'd probably eat it, enjoy it, get full, and consider it something within the realm of what DiGiulio's would offer.
I liken this food argument to wine enthusiasts. They use all these ridiculous adjectives to describe a wine and rank them often with the winery location and price bias. It's been shown in studies that wine enthusiasts for the most part have no idea what the hell they're talking about and at a minimum are inconsistent.
If you can indeed tell a difference and have a gift of that kind of palate, I applaud you. But I am speaking for 95% of the population in saying that your bias is coming into play when you talk about RL and OG. There's a reason they are a large (and for the most part of history) successful
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 10:39 am
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:42 am to TulaneUVA
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I liken this food argument to wine enthusiasts. They use all these ridiculous adjectives to describe a wine and rank them often with the winery location and price bias. It's been shown in studies that wine enthusiasts for the most part have no idea what the hell they're talking about and at a minimum are inconsistent.
Wow, what a completely false comparison.
There is a vast difference between being able to distinguish certain nuances in wine and being able to tell which tomato sauce came from a can and which one was prepared fresh.
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If you can indeed tell a difference and have a gift of that kind of palate, I applaud you. But I am speaking for 95% of the population in saying that your bias is coming into play when you talk about RL and OG. There's a reason they are a large (and for the most part of history) successful
Yeah, same reason McDonald's is (monetarily) "successful" -- marketing and a poorly-educated customer base.
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 10:44 am
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:59 am to TulaneUVA
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Don't know S&G means either, but I'll also chime in...
Shits and Giggles.
Still, I'd like to see specifics as to what Olive Garden sells on their menu that one would consider better than average and would fool someone eating at a proper Italian restaurant. I honest to God cannot find one thing that is even Tuscan, save anything that I would order or consider proper Italian in an authentic Italian restaurant.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:05 am to I Love Bama
Red Lobster was ranked as the "BEST" seafood restaurant in Arkansas many moons age when mom was still alive. When she told my that little anecdote I choked at the lack of seafood in the area.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:15 am to TulaneUVA
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There's a reason they are a large (and for the most part of history) successful
This thought process as to trying to explain that a place is good always cracks me up.
They are good and marketing and good and running a business. That does not mean that their food all that good. Our country is overrun with fast food and shitty restaurants. Luckily there are pockets of our society that care about local businesses and quality.
I just got back from Seattle and it was refreshing to be in an area where people care about such things.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:17 am to notiger1997
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I just got back from Seattle and it was refreshing to be in an area where people care about such things.
This is where I call BS. They have just as much crap as the rest of the country.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 11:22 am to Tigertown in ATL
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They have just as much crap as the rest of the country.
You drive around the neighborhoods of Ballard, Queen Ann, Freemont, and the little hoods that make up Seattle and get back with me after you take similiar drives around other cities in America that are vast wastelands of McDonald, KFC, Taco Bell on every other corner.
I just really hate the argument that somehow a place is good because they make alot of money. Bud/Miller/Coors sell the most beer, but it is still shite.
Hannah Montana/Justin Beiber sell the most music, but it still sucks.
Some chains are good. Most are bad. They are what they are. Eat there if you like it.
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