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Real estate investment: What am I missing?

Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:34 am
Posted by Jahel
Member since Nov 2011
5576 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:34 am


quote:

$38000 / 3br - 1500ft²

This is a 3br 1.5 bath home thats currently rented at 850/month. Tenant just resigned a new 1 year lease at $850 per month.



mortgage on this would be about 3-400....so I would make 400/month

but supposedly there's more

quote:

can include in a 13 home package deal for only 350k and valued at 800k


worst case scenario I put it as section 8 and get 650/month

why are these available? The market cap on these make it basically risk free....what am I missing?

Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46380 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:37 am to
quote:

what am I missing?


Insurance and property taxes...
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28263 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:37 am to
quote:

why are these available? The market cap on these make it basically risk free....what am I missing?


1. Time value of money
2. maintanence costs
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22655 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:37 am to
Burglary bars on the front windows are about that's missing as far as I can see.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51411 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:41 am to
If its too good to be true....

Could have a lien on the property.

Posted by Jahel
Member since Nov 2011
5576 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:43 am to
quote:

1. Time value of money


huh? just a little down on my part 8k....then all rent completely reinvested into the property(maintenance or pay-down of mortgage)

not really about immediate cash return

buy 10 of these and within 10 years they'd all be paid off.

then bringing 4k-10k/month

quote:


2. maintanence costs


This is the only issue i see...is it really that bad? >4k/year
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 11:47 am
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46380 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:52 am to
quote:

This is the only issue i see...is it really that bad? >4k/year


What part of the country are they located? Differnt places have different problems, termites, the heat in the south eats up roofs, ACs fail. The brick on the outside would be a plus...
Posted by Jahel
Member since Nov 2011
5576 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 11:58 am to
Memphis, TN

loc: 4581 cottonwood memphis tn US

quote:

4581 Cottonwood Rd, Memphis, TN
Zestimate®: $43,800
Rent Zestimate®: $775/mo
Est. Mortgage: $159/mo
Beds: 3
Baths: 1.0


but i did see this:


quote:

04/03/2012 Sold $26,000 -54.3% $19 Public Record

10/15/1984 Sold $56,859 -- $43 Public Record


guy's trying to flip
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46380 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 12:02 pm to
I did a lot of work in Memphis last year, a large portion of that city is the hood but that home is close, but not in, some decent areas...
Posted by Jahel
Member since Nov 2011
5576 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

quote:
04/03/2012 Sold $26,000 -54.3% $19 Public Record


this a scam?

buy for 26k
get a fake rental agreement for himself paying 8k over/year so that it would convince people to buy it
make a quick 12k?


Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46380 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

this a scam?



Caveat emptor
Posted by Jahel
Member since Nov 2011
5576 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

this a scam?



Caveat emptor


is that latin for bullet to the head? Because if someone's trying to scam me, I take it in the exact same way as if they're trying to grab my wallet, or break in to my house. How is stealing money different in people's eyes I don't know
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Dead Mike
Cell Block 4
Member since Mar 2010
4065 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 1:20 pm to
Sounds too good to be true. Renting it out at that rate over a 15 year period would gross 153,000 on approximate expenditure of ~60,000. Only situation where that would make any sense is if the current owner is moving out of state and can't be bothered to hire a maintenance company.

quote:

is that latin for bullet to the head? Because if someone's trying to scam me, I take it in the exact same way as if they're trying to grab my wallet, or break in to my house. How is stealing money different in people's eyes I don't know


You have to opt in to be scammed. That's a pretty key difference.
Posted by GregYoureMyBoyBlue
Member since Apr 2011
2964 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 1:30 pm to
That area is not a very safe area. Just FYI
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91454 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 9:31 pm to
memphis has tons of great deals, unfortunately they are not THAT GOOD asking price wise for a house like that at least that I have seen lately. now yes you could get a nice PCF monthly investing there, but again that deal looks and sounds fishy. May be a bad neighborhood. may have a tax lien. may have structural problems among other things.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 7:45 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91454 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:58 pm to
any updates??? Looked into more thoroughly?
Posted by Alabama Slim
Team Massie
Member since Jul 2007
10666 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

That area is not a very safe area. Just FYI



if your going to make any real money in rental property, those are the only areas your going to do it.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91454 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

if your going to make any real money in rental property, those are the only areas your going to do it.


really? Then why are so many making money in good areas in memphis?

Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38838 posts
Posted on 5/17/12 at 1:38 pm to
Chinese drywall? Just lost out on a great deal because of that.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91454 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:36 pm to
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