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TROLA 
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:31 pm to MinnesotaTiger)
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Nah this will very soon be recognized as a national civil rights issue and it will change quickly and completely.
This isnt a civil rights issue, it's an issue regarding enforcement of a contract. The insistence of some to coin it one is insulting IMV to the work done by those in the 60's.
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tylercsbn9 
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:34 pm to Federal Tiger)
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I must have missed the election that any state allowed for same sex marriages......which I would consider "acceptance" in this country.
If young people voted as much as geezers it would be "accepted" by your definition.
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tylercsbn9
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:35 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
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If it's left up to individual states, like it should be, then yes it will be in some places.
Yep. Interracial marriage might still be illegal in Mississippi if put to a vote.
But I think in the next 20 years it will be common and the next 50 it will pretty much be everyone.
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arlo 
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:36 pm to TROLA)
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This isnt a civil rights issue,
Yes it is. It's all about equality. Please pay attention.
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Tiger Authority
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:37 pm to MinnesotaTiger)
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this will very soon be recognized as a national civil rights issue
The courts don't even view this as a civil rights situation but you do? 
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Henry Jones Jr 
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:39 pm to arlo)
How can this be viewed as a civil rights issue? Nobody is stopping them from being together.
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GoCrazyAuburn 
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:40 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
Friend of mine on facebook is trying to start a petition to have the state amendment be ruled unconstitutional by the federal courts. 
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Tiger Authority
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:40 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
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How can this be viewed as a civil rights issue? Nobody is stopping them from being together.
The Minn guy hasn't thought this through.
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CamdenTiger
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:40 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
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How can this be viewed as a civil rights issue? Nobody is stopping them from being together.
Its not, its just the "talking point" they want to attack it with.
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HempHead
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:41 pm to Henry Jones Jr)
Right. It's a matter of allowing (or, in these particular cases, not allowing) individuals to enter into a marriage or marriage-like contract.
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DA
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Member since Sep 2007
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:41 pm to MinnesotaTiger)
Why should a civil rights issue be left up to the state? Have you seen some of the goobers who currently run states? You want them deciding your rights? I don't.
Could a state decide that it's OK to have 5 wives? We've had that fight before.
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Tiger Authority
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:41 pm to GoCrazyAuburn)
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Friend of mine on facebook is trying to start a petition to have the state amendment be ruled unconstitutional by the federal courts.
What's wrong with federal court?
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coloradoBengal
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:43 pm to DA)
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Have you seen some of the goobers who currently run states?
They are no different than the same goobers running the country. You think this is a meritocracy? Not even close.
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Tiger Authority
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:43 pm to DA)
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Could a state decide that it's OK to have 5 wives? We've had that fight before.
If you support gay marriage how do you distinguish here?
All prop 8 did was not allow them to use the word marriage. It didn't actually take any rights from them. It was still ruled unconstitutional but please learn something DA.
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arlo
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:43 pm to tylercsbn9)
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Yep. Interracial marriage might still be illegal in Mississippi if put to a vote.
Yeah, but there's no way to exclude the black female vote, so it is what it is.
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HempHead
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Appalachia
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:45 pm to DA)
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Why should a civil rights issue be left up to the state?
If you are going to allow them to enjoy the fruits of your labor, I don't see why it is such a change of pace for them to manipulate contract law.
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Have you seen some of the goobers who currently run states?
Politicians are inherently shitty. You won't find many good state governments. I guess that means we should let the feds run the show, huh?
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Could a state decide that it's OK to have 5 wives?
No, but a man and five women can.
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CamdenTiger
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:46 pm to DA)
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Why should a civil rights issue be left up to the state? Have you seen some of the goobers who currently run states? You want them deciding your rights? I don't.
Better an entire state, than a few radical judges. Its just not something I care about. Economy and Jobs/debt crisis are more important. All of us getting screwed now, not that much worried about Ken screwing Bob, with a certificate.
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DA
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:47 pm to Tiger Authority)
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All prop 8 did was not allow them to use the word marriage. It didn't actually take any rights from them. It was still ruled unconstitutional but please learn something DA.
I was referring to the feds telling Utah it couldn't be a state unless they dumped polygamy.
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Joshjrn
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:47 pm to Tiger Authority)
DOMA will be repealed within the next 5-10 years. SCOTUS will rule that states must give Full Faith and Credit within 10-15 years. Within 20-25 years, SCOTUS will deem it an Equal Protection issue and it will be legal nationwide.
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TROLA
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BATON ROUGE
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| re: The trajectory of the gay marriage issue (Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:48 pm to DA)
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Could a state decide that it's OK to have 5 wives? We've had that fight before.
Is there some federal. Law that prohibits these situations.. I honestly don't know..
Listen I'm supportive of gay marriage but don't view It as a civil rights issue.. The federal government needs to extend the same benefits and disadvantages of "marriage" to gays...it's simple.. Now if they were being rounded up and prosecuted/harassed for living there life...yes it would be a civil rights issue.
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