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re: Quick Breakdown of Losses Under Miles
Posted on 5/9/12 at 8:19 pm to wesman21
Posted on 5/9/12 at 8:19 pm to wesman21
2005 loss to Tenn was huger than the loss to Georgia in the SECCCG because it ruined a perfect season that no one would have expected in wake of Katrina. Had they not melted down in the second half after playin so awesome in the first, they may have gone into the SECCG against Georgia in a totally new light with everything to play for in terms of a National title!
Miles would have been off to a roarin start!
Miles would have been off to a roarin start!
This post was edited on 5/9/12 at 8:21 pm
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Posted on 5/9/12 at 8:24 pm to la_birdman
Two words! "Finish Strong"-Birdman!
Posted on 5/9/12 at 8:31 pm to wesman21
quote:I was pretty pissed after this game.
2. 2010 Arkansas, kept us from a BCS game
Posted on 5/9/12 at 8:36 pm to wesman21
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1. 2011 Alabama, moving right along 2. 2010 Arkansas, kept us from a BCS game
JJ cost us.....eh, forget it.
This post was edited on 5/9/12 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 5/9/12 at 8:48 pm to bluestem75
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, seriously, why even post? If you don't like the topic keep your f-in mouth shut and don't hit the reply button. I hate it when I post a topic and someone has put all of their negative energy all over it like this.
Whoa buddy pump the breaks...I'm simply trying to understand what point he was getting at. No need to get all defensive on a message board because someone asked a question challenging a the relevance of a topic. Untie the knot in your girl panties.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:02 pm to KLaw
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2005 loss to Tenn was huger than the loss to Georgia in the SECCCG because it ruined a perfect season that no one would have expected in wake of Katrina. Had they not melted down in the second half after playin so awesome in the first, they may have gone into the SECCG against Georgia in a totally new light with everything to play for in terms of a National title!
Miles would have been off to a roarin start!
The loss was pretty bad, but in the end I don't think it really changed anything in terms of national championship implications. Texas and USC began the season ranked ahead of us and I don't think we would have been able to jump them. This was the last year before the streak began, and before the SEC had the national clout it does now, in terms of getting the "benefit of the doubt" in a three way tie.
Really insane when you think how long ago that seems, that it was the last time a non-SEC team won the national title.
I wish that Tennessee team would have at least gone on to have a respectable season, and not have been so terrible. They're listed as a top 10 team, but they were 5-6 that year.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:04 pm to Carlos
I think they would have jumped Texas because of the SEC which all know by now is the best conference there is, but you do have a point sayin the SEC didn't have the clout back then that it does now.
This post was edited on 5/9/12 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:13 pm to KLaw
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I think they would have jumped Texas because of the SEC which all know by now is the best conference there is, but you do have a point sayin the SEC didn't have the clout back then that it does now.
VY and Reggie Bush were possibly the two most hyped college players in recent history. The media wasn't going to forego a title game featuring those two, certainly not in favor of LSU. Add to that, Texas won its conference championship game 70-3.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:19 pm to Outlaw
The fact that were heading into year 8 of his tenure and we can list "all of his losses" and discuss each of them at length proves he is doing a fine job. Perfect? No. But who is? We have a damn strong football coach.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:25 pm to Carlos
true, I forgot about VY and the media fan love with him.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 9:38 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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2005 Tennessee also did terrible things for the fan's perception of Miles.
Yeah, because there was not anything bigger to worry about in 2005.
Actually, that season is what sold me on Les....a new coach, a new team, a new staff and he goes 11-2 under those circumstances. I could give a shite less about "who's team" it was...it took skill and leadership to maneuver that season.
I will give you the TN game sucked, but I'm looking at the season as a whole...the GA game was a result of 10 games in 9 weeks--we were tired and slow, but 11-2 was only the second taste of an 11 win season.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 10:00 pm to airbornetiger
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the GA game was a result of 10 games in 9 weeks
The injury situation didn't help either. Although we may have lost Jamarcus after the game got out of reach. If I remember correctly, we lost Jessie Daniels during pregame warmups and had to start an inexperienced Steltz at safety.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:01 pm to airbornetiger
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2005 Tennessee also did terrible things for the fan's perception of Miles.
Yeah, because there was not anything bigger to worry about in 2005.
i agree, but there's no denying that there are those within the fanbase that forged their opinion of miles that day, and there's nothing he will ever do to make it up for that loss.
like someone said, we're 8 years in and the loss list is still short enough to discuss in detail. amazing.
This post was edited on 5/9/12 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:03 pm to LSUdubai
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Wow. I hope you never use that "against" a Bama fan.
Sad.
It's true, isn't it?
I can't tell you how broken up I am that you don't approve.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:06 pm to KLaw
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Two words! "Finish Strong"-Birdman!
I get the frustration guys, I do and believe me, I was right there with y'all.
Let's not turn this into another 1/9 thread.
I just didn't understand what the OP was trying to say with this whole thread.
And how's that trophy look for Bama right about now?
Ok, enough of that.
Just wasn't understanding what the point of this thread was, that's all.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 11:14 pm to airbornetiger
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Yeah, because there was not anything bigger to worry about in 2005.
Actually, that season is what sold me on Les....a new coach, a new team, a new staff and he goes 11-2 under those circumstances. I could give a shite less about "who's team" it was...it took skill and leadership to maneuver that season.
Bull. Crap.
If anything, the hype for that game, moved to a Monday night as I recall, was off the charts with all of the associated Katrina press.
The utter collapse of our defense after a good first half, the freakin evil poetry of having the secondary picked apart by freakin Rick Clausen because every defender played 20 yards off the ball. . . LSU boards were absolutely going ape.
Nick was still the beloved coach who had moved on to a greater dream, or at least had left big shoes to fill. Les was pretty much an unknown, and he was showing very small feet.
The part of you, that last remaing doubt deep down in the pit of your stomach,that still fears that Les is just an average football mind who has succeeded wildy beyond his skill set, using a combination of good recruiting, good assistants (mostly),and sold-his-soul-to-the-devil luck, that part of you was conceived on that day.
And although the regular season ended in the SECCG, we got skulldrug by GA, and there were already a handful of "Miles Moments" to chew on heading into the bowl game where we took it out on the Irish. So some bright spots.
This post was edited on 5/9/12 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 5/10/12 at 1:16 am to bengaltygers
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The fact that were heading into year 8 of his tenure and we can list "all of his losses" and discuss each of them at length proves he is doing a fine job. Perfect? No. But who is? We have a damn strong football coach.
Yes, and what is always forgotten by some of the faithful is that CLM's accomplishments came at same timeframe as Saban/UA, Meyer/UF, Petrino/Hogs, AU consistently good, only 1 OOC loss in 30+ games. For most clubs/HC's that's 3 or 4 losses a year every single year. Yet, according to one poster I saw, 'he should be winning 90%'...amazing.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 1:24 am to luvdoc
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And although the regular season ended in the SECCG, we got skulldrug by GA
The guys were wore out...I thought that apparent.
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using a combination of good recruiting, good assistants (mostly),and sold-his-soul-to-the-devil luck,
The 3 main functions of a CFB HC is recruiting, hiring assistants and keeping program on same page.
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, that part of you was conceived on that day.
You'll never be satisfied till 2020 or so then, Gawd bless man. Hiring a coach as successful as Miles after he retires is against the odds. Maybe things will look for you in 2030 or thereabouts.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:35 am to TheHiddenFlask
quote:Maybe it's the fans.
2005 Tennessee also did terrible things for the fan's perception of Miles.
Saban wasn't torn down after '10 AU comeback.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:35 am to la_birdman
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I just didn't understand what the OP was trying to say with this whole thread.
I was just looking at all of Miles' losses in one list with some analysis.
The dude is a fricking beast coach, I love him, in no way was this suppose to be a slight to him. To be honest it took me awhile to come full circle, because I was a huge Nick Saban fan as I was a student during his tenure at LSU.
I get what you're saying about finding the meaning of the post, I just hadn't seen a post that dissected his losses, so I figured I'd give it a go.
Its very impressive that if you take away four of the eighteen losses LSU can then claim:
No losses against non-SEC opponents (Penn St 2009)
Another BCS Bowl Game (Arkansas 2010)
Another SEC Championship (Georgia 2005)
Another National Championship (Alabama 2011)
That was the biggest thing about viewing the losses, to me.
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