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Am I the only person on here that believes
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:03 am
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:03 am
That our football team will not be as talented as they were last year? Do not misunderstand me, we are still indeed stacked. However, we are losing some outstanding talent from last year in key positions.
QB - upgrade
RB - push ( lost Stampley, gained Hill)
WR - downgrade (lost Randle, no new incoming stars)
TE - push
DL - downgrade (same as WR's, lost Brockers and same people from last year are back)
LB - Upgrade (strictly regarding talent, this is an upgrade even though it is still not a proven group)
DB - Major downgrade (obvious major loss of Claiborne, but many people are seriously overlooking the loss of Taylor and Brooks. We still have a vast pool of talent in our secondary this year, but this is the same principal as DL and WR. Major talent losses with everybody else coming back).
I could be wrong. We could have another incoming freak come along like Claiborne or TM7 who nobody knew of, but I can't help but realize how much talent we lost.
QB - upgrade
RB - push ( lost Stampley, gained Hill)
WR - downgrade (lost Randle, no new incoming stars)
TE - push
DL - downgrade (same as WR's, lost Brockers and same people from last year are back)
LB - Upgrade (strictly regarding talent, this is an upgrade even though it is still not a proven group)
DB - Major downgrade (obvious major loss of Claiborne, but many people are seriously overlooking the loss of Taylor and Brooks. We still have a vast pool of talent in our secondary this year, but this is the same principal as DL and WR. Major talent losses with everybody else coming back).
I could be wrong. We could have another incoming freak come along like Claiborne or TM7 who nobody knew of, but I can't help but realize how much talent we lost.
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Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:06 am to TIGER FAN 72
we should have a better offense and a not as good defense. the matter of degree will determine if we are as good or not. mett really is the key.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:07 am to TIGER FAN 72
WE'RE GONNA SUCK 
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:07 am to TIGER FAN 72
QB- Upgrade
RB- Push
WR- Push. Landry will take Randle's place nicely IMO
TE- Push
OL- Upgrade
DL- Push. Freak takes brockers place
LB- Upgrade
DB- Downgrade
The good thing about LSU is that they just reload every year. Players are so thirsty to take the place of the big guys that leave. This team will be hungry and dangerous. Can't wait for September
RB- Push
WR- Push. Landry will take Randle's place nicely IMO
TE- Push
OL- Upgrade
DL- Push. Freak takes brockers place
LB- Upgrade
DB- Downgrade
The good thing about LSU is that they just reload every year. Players are so thirsty to take the place of the big guys that leave. This team will be hungry and dangerous. Can't wait for September
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:11 am to TIGER FAN 72
"if you think the defense will be as good as last year with the loss of Nevis, PP7 and Kelvin, you're full of shite and need to take of the P&G glasses"...The Rant about this time last year
Personally I think the d-line will be better because of experience and Mingo/Sam getting a little bigger. Depth should be improved as well.
Personally I think the d-line will be better because of experience and Mingo/Sam getting a little bigger. Depth should be improved as well.
This post was edited on 5/4/12 at 11:13 am
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:14 am to TIGER FAN 72
quote:
RB - push ( lost Stampley, gained Hill)
I disagree. I think we're better because the actual RB's all have a year under their belts. I do not think the loss of Stampley will be all that detrimental. Copeland will assume the role of busting shite up.
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WR - downgrade (lost Randle, no new incoming stars)
I disagree again. While none of the current WR's are stars, they have the potential to become stars - especially with Mett throwing to them.
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DL - downgrade (same as WR's, lost Brockers and same people from last year are back)
Downgrade? Why are you giving any value to experience and growth?
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DB - Major downgrade (obvious major loss of Claiborne, but many people are seriously overlooking the loss of Taylor and Brooks. We still have a vast pool of talent in our secondary this year, but this is the same principal as DL and WR. Major talent losses with everybody else coming back).
A slight downgrade...maybe.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:19 am to TIGER FAN 72
you forgot the most important position on the entire field, but that's okay i guess...
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:23 am to TIGER FAN 72
You are forgetting that players get better with experience.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:42 am to TIGER FAN 72
its called optimism.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:48 am to TIGER FAN 72
How are we downgraded at DL? The only guy we lost is being replace by the Freak.....everyone else will be a year older and more experienced. I think that position will be an upgrade. Everyone should be more experienced at RB, so that should be an upgrade. I see your point with talent at WR, but we couldn't pass the ball last year like we should next year so there will be more production from that unit as well. The DBs will be a downgrade, but come on man, we have 2 all American candidates back there and everyone else is studly as well. It won't be much of one.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:51 am to TIGER FAN 72
quote:
I could be wrong.
not could be, you are wrong. You logic is stupid. Its not a zero sume game, we lost Brokers, but have other guys in his place.
Take your logic back a year, according to you we were downgraded at DB from 2010 to 2011 because we lost Peterson and had "the same guys" back.
For Example on the DL we had A Johnson last year, but he will play a bigger role and freshman often et better as sophs so its not a "down grade" because we lost Brockers. some one will take over his spot, because its someone that was on the roster does not make it a net loss.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:58 am to TIGER FAN 72
The defense will be more dominant because there won't be as many three and outs by our offense. Rested and ready.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:59 am to TIGER FAN 72
You have to consider that we gained experience at all positions
WR and DB are downgrades, but RB is an upgrade IMO just because of experience gained
WR and DB are downgrades, but RB is an upgrade IMO just because of experience gained
Posted on 5/4/12 at 12:02 pm to TIGER FAN 72
quote:
LB - Upgrade
I was looking through some STATS yesterday. Guess how many tackles Francois made last year.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 12:03 pm to TIGER FAN 72
You do realize young players have a good chance of improving right? If this happens:
QB: major upgrade
RB: upgrade (Copeland is our starter at FB. We lost a backup)
WR: Pretty much non-factor last year. Upgrade due to QB play
TE: push
OL: upgrade with Collins reaching potential
DL: Push. Lost Brockers. Mingo and Montgomery another year of improvement with the Freak getting better as well.
LB:Upgrade to level of talent increasing
DB: Downgrade. Nothing drastic as we have great talent, but won't be as dominant as last year IMO.
QB: major upgrade
RB: upgrade (Copeland is our starter at FB. We lost a backup)
WR: Pretty much non-factor last year. Upgrade due to QB play
TE: push
OL: upgrade with Collins reaching potential
DL: Push. Lost Brockers. Mingo and Montgomery another year of improvement with the Freak getting better as well.
LB:Upgrade to level of talent increasing
DB: Downgrade. Nothing drastic as we have great talent, but won't be as dominant as last year IMO.
This post was edited on 5/4/12 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 5/4/12 at 12:15 pm to TIGER FAN 72
guess i just won't buy student tickets. I have a rough fall semester anyways. 
Posted on 5/4/12 at 12:49 pm to TIGER FAN 72
quote:
DL - downgrade
Does the name Anthony Johnson come to mind? Although not as proven as Brockers obviously, but he is supposed to be the next big thing.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 12:50 pm to TIGER FAN 72
quote:Why no, no you aren't.
Am I the only person on here that believes
That our football team will not be as talented as they were last year?
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:01 pm to TIGER FAN 72
quote:it's not a case of what lsu has coming back. it's what lsu has coming back COMPARED TO everyone else. in that sense, lsu is in better shape than pretty much everyone in the country. plus, lsu's schedule is easier than last year.
football team will not be as talented as they were last year
on paper, this should be a banner year for lsu.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:02 pm to TIGER FAN 72
quote:
QB - upgrade
think everyone agrees with this one
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RB - push ( lost Stampley, gained Hill)
Upgrade - we return everyone which means those guys are a year more experienced and should be better in terms of development than last season.
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WR - downgrade (lost Randle, no new incoming stars)
Randle will be hard to replace, but I strongly believe Dural will be the deep threat that Randle was. And the returning guys will be much more productive with a better passer.
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TE - push
Agreed
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DL - downgrade (same as WR's, lost Brockers and same people from last year are back)
Push, we lose Brockers and replace him with Freak. Our returning DL, like RBs should be better than they were last season.
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LB - Upgrade (strictly regarding talent, this is an upgrade even though it is still not a proven group)
Agreed
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DB - Major downgrade (obvious major loss of Claiborne, but many people are seriously overlooking the loss of Taylor and Brooks. We still have a vast pool of talent in our secondary this year, but this is the same principal as DL and WR. Major talent losses with everybody else coming back).
Wouldn't call it a major downgrade, but you're right...losing Taylor and Brooks really hurts. There is just as much talent in this defensive backfield as last year...it's just unproven talent.
I think the thing you are forgetting most of all is development. OBJ as a sophomore should be better than OBJ as a freshman. Simon as a junior should be better than Simon as a sophomore. And so on. I think the talent is just as good, if not better than last year. These kids are not satisfied, they are getting better every day.
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