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re: Having a bounty but not actually injuring anyone illegally gets you a year
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:31 pm to Robot Santa
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:31 pm to Robot Santa
Rape, Murder, Drug Kingpin = Better than bounty system
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:33 pm to quail man
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it's more of the whole not cooperating with the investigation thing that caused RG to come down so hard
That would be a solid argument, except that Goodell only cited incidents that occurred prior to the league's mandate to end the "bounty program"; if it was about covering up a "bounty program" and/or about continuing a "bounty program", then they would have cited those as the reason for the player suspensions.
No, this is all about the lawsuit that the league is facing.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:39 pm to Robot Santa
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Which is a crime, even if you aren't successful.
So conspiracy to rob a bank should be 2-3 times more harsh than actually robbing a bank?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:50 pm to eyeran
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Goodell found out about it in 2010 and let it go on for 2 more seasons before punishing anyone.
What does it say about Roger's intentions if he was willing to sweep this under the rug if they'd stopped 2 seasons ago? Just like he did with the Packers bounty program when they stopped...which got no publicity
Not sure which former player WWL870 was interviewing, but he said had the Saints won the SuperBowl, there is no way Goodell would have taken action this year. He would have waited until after this year.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:55 pm to MinnesotaTiger
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These appeals are going to make this a moot point. I doubt any of the 4 guys will miss a single down of the 2012 and 2013 seasons.
Wrong. Roger will hear the appeals. They will be denied within 7 days of the date of appeal.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:07 pm to barry
Look at it this way- Plotting to rob a bank or bomb a building will still get you years in prison, even though nothing illegal actually took place.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:10 pm to TigerTatorTots
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Look at it this way- Plotting to rob a bank or bomb a building will still get you years in prison, even though nothing illegal actually took place.
I know, but what's the worse suspension for an illegal hit in NFL history?
eta: I think its 5 games for haynesworth.
This post was edited on 5/2/12 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:11 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Wrong. Roger will hear the appeals. They will be denied within 7 days of the date of appeal.
As Schefter said "get ready for a massive multiple legal battle over this on several fronts."
The last time Will Smith was suspended how long was if before it was enforced?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:17 pm to TigerTatorTots
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Look at it this way- Plotting to rob a bank or bomb a building will still get you years in prison, even though nothing illegal actually took place.
Yeah, but this is like getting 10 years for conspiracy to bomb a building and 4 years for actually bombing the building.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:18 pm to TigerintheNO
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As Schefter said "get ready for a massive multiple legal battle over this on several fronts."
So the NFLPA wants to make a mockery of player safety?
That's gonna look good on the NFL's side of the ledger in these concussion cases that are going through the courts right now.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:31 pm to TigerTatorTots
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Look at it this way- Plotting to rob a bank or bomb a building will still get you years in prison, even though nothing illegal actually took place.
Are you retarded..?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:33 pm to quail man
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quail man
You're annoying and 100% wrong on virtually every issue in sports
Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:35 pm to barry
The Saints were told to stop but they didn't. Why can't people understand that this was the biggest reason why they were punished? The players knew what they were doing was wrong and they got caught. Why can't you Saints fans understand that they were punished because they were caught, told to stop, ignored it, kept doing it, and then were caught again?
Jesus H. Christ take off your who dat glasses and wake the hell up people.
Jesus H. Christ take off your who dat glasses and wake the hell up people.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:54 pm to beatbammer
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So the NFLPA wants to make a mockery of player safety?
No, the NFLPA is there to look out for the best interest of all their players. This includes those who were involved in a bounty program, convicted of vehicular manslaughter, used steroids in the offseason, ran a dog fighting ring, etc.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 2:00 pm to Dire Wolf
for 3 years, NFL has been telling the Saints not to.
they kept it up after being told to knock it off.
its on the saints.
PS. I have seen Vilma doing h2h.
they kept it up after being told to knock it off.
its on the saints.
PS. I have seen Vilma doing h2h.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 2:03 pm to TheDarkestNight
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The Saints were told to stop but they didn't. Why can't people understand that this was the biggest reason why they were punished? The players knew what they were doing was wrong and they got caught. Why can't you Saints fans understand that they were punished because they were caught, told to stop, ignored it, kept doing it, and then were caught again?
Not the case according to Darren Sharper. I realize he is a player who just so happened to be on those Saints teams but at this point all we have to go on is people's words.
Sharper reports that Williams nor anyone else with the Saints notified the players that the NFL requested that the Bounty system be shut down.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 2:06 pm to TheDarkestNight
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The Saints were told to stop but they didn't. Why can't people understand that this was the biggest reason why they were punished? The players knew what they were doing was wrong and they got caught. Why can't you Saints fans understand that they were punished because they were caught, told to stop, ignored it, kept doing it, and then were caught again?
thats fine and all, but the NFL needs to turn its evidence over if it wants the NFLPA or the fans to accept what it is saying
Posted on 5/2/12 at 2:08 pm to TheDarkestNight
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The Saints were told to stop but they didn't. Why can't people understand that this was the biggest reason why they were punished?
Because that's not why they were punished.
Read what the NFL CLEARLY stated today.
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The players knew what they were doing was wrong and they got caught. Why can't you Saints fans understand that they were punished because they were caught, told to stop, ignored it, kept doing it, and then were caught again?
The NFL told them to stop the "bounty system" in the weeks between the NFCCG and the Super Bowl. ALL of the events cited by the NFL happened PRIOR to that.
If the NFL were punishing the Saints for not stopping when they were told to, then the NFL would have cited examples of where it happened. They didn't, which implies that things did NOT go down as you think.
So YOU wake the frick up and stop blindly regurgitating what your masters tell you.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 2:12 pm to TigerBait1127
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thats fine and all, but the NFL needs to turn its evidence over if it wants the NFLPA or the fans to accept what it is saying
They have no obligations whatsoever to do so. This isn't a trial. The NFL is a benevolent dictatorship with 32 rooting interests. You play by the commissioners rules and the rules of the NFL, or you don't play. These players knew what they were doing was wrong and kept doing it. Now they want to come out and act like "Oh everyone does it" or "It's not bad" or "I shouldn't be punished".
You did the crime, you do the time. If you don't want to be punished, then follow the damn rules.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 2:14 pm to Sophandros
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Sophandros
frick me sideways this is some delusional shite from a delusional bastard.
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