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foshizzle  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2008 25135 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:14 am to yankeeundercover)
They look like winners. 
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hg  Toledo Fan Member since Jun 2009 53168 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:15 am to yankeeundercover)
"Come on down to Cleveland town everyone, it's so polluted that all our fish have aids."
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TreyAnastasio  Alabama Fan Bitch I'm From Cleveland Member since Dec 2010 28160 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:15 am to foshizzle)
I think 2 of those guys are in Arcade Fire 
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nycajun  LSU Fan Nothin' could be finer..... Member since Dec 2004 16881 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:15 am to TreyAnastasio)
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Prominentwon  North Carolina Fan ...that's where TOTS come from! Member since Jan 2005 64495 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:15 am to tigersnipen)
White people problems.
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When in Rome  USA Fan Telegraph Road Member since Jan 2011 20848 posts
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| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:16 am to tigersnipen)
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Wonder why they are described as "anarchists" instead of terrorists
I was thinking the same thing. Even most anarchists would reject what they were planning on doing: LINK
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Anarchism is not terrorism. An overwhelming majority of anarchists have always rejected terrorism, because they've been intelligent enough to realize that means determine ends, that terrorism is inherently vanguardist, and that even when "successful" it almost always leads to bad results. The anonymous authors of You Can't Blow Up a Social Relationship: The Anarchist Case Against Terrorism put it like this: You can't blow up a social relationship. The total collapse of this society would provide no guarantee about what replaced it. Unless a majority of people had the ideas and organization sufficient for the creation of an alternative society, we would see the old world reassert itself because it is what people would be used to, what they believed in, what existed unchallenged in their own personalities. Proponents of terrorism and guerrillaism are to be opposed because their actions are vanguardist and authoritarian, because their ideas, to the extent that they are substantial, are wrong or unrelated to the results of their actions (especially when they call themselves libertarians or anarchists), because their killing cannot be justified, and finally because their actions produce either repression with nothing in return, or an authoritarian regime. 2 Decades of government and corporate slander cannot alter this reality: the overwhelming majority of anarchists reject terrorism for both practical and ethical reasons. In the late 1990s, Time magazine called Ted Kaczynski "the king of the anarchists"; but that doesn't make it so. Time's words are just another typical, perhaps deliberately dishonest, attempt to tar all anarchists with the terrorist brush. This is not to say that armed resistance is never appropriate. Clearly there are situations in which one has little choice, as when facing a dictatorship that suppresses civil liberties and prevents one from acting openly, which has happened repeatedly in many countries. Even then, armed resistance should be undertaken reluctantly and as a last resort, because violence is inherently undesirable due to the suffering it causes; because it provides repressive regimes excuses for further repression; because it provides them with the opportunity to commit atrocities against civilians and to blame those atrocities on their "terrorist" opponents; and because, as history has shown, the chances of success are very low. Even though armed resistance may sometimes be called for in repressive situations, it's a far different matter to succumb to the romance of the gun and to engage in urban guerrilla warfare in relatively open societies in which civil liberties are largely intact and in which one does not have mass popular support at the start of one's violent campaign. Violence in such situations does little but drive the public into the "protective" arms of the government; narrow political dialogue (tending to polarize the populace into pro- and anti-guerrilla factions); turn politics into a spectator sport for the vast majority of people3; provide the government with the excuse to suppress civil liberties; and induce the onset of repressive regimes "better" able to handle the "terrorist" problem than their more tolerant predecessors. It's also worth mentioning that the chances of success of such violent, vanguardist campaigns are microscopic. They are simply arrogant, ill-thought-out roads to disaster.4
I suppose in the simplest sense, they were probably known for being anarchists who were doing this for some type of cause, rather than just to inspire terror eta: I would consider them terrorists too
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GRTiger  USA Fan On a roof eating alligator pie Member since Dec 2008 12229 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:17 am to foshizzle)
Far right, is that an Avett brother?
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TreyAnastasio  Alabama Fan Bitch I'm From Cleveland Member since Dec 2010 28160 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:19 am to When in Rome)
I wonder why they would choose that bridge. Its not anywhere near downtown and it isnt very heavily trafficked. If they blew up the 480 bridge, that would cause some anarchy.
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diddydirtyAubie Member since Dec 2010 24999 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:20 am to TreyAnastasio)
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TreyAnastasio
damn...you're still here. 
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Yewkindewit  LSU Fan Near Birmingham, Alabama Member since Apr 2012 2701 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:20 am to nycajun)
probably a practice round.....been to Cleveland once for a work meeting. No memories remain of the trip....
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Traveler  LSU Fan I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow Member since Sep 2003 14797 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:21 am to TreyAnastasio)
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If they blew up the 480 bridge, that would cause some anarchy.
No doubt.
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NYCAuburn  Auburn Fan TD Platinum Membership Member since Feb 2011 17309 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:30 am to TreyAnastasio)
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You can all suck on my left nut. Especially NYC.
Why you so mad though........oh you live in cleveland. :prayerrequestthreadintheworks:
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yankeeundercover  Syracuse Fan HMWHC® (via DC) Member since Jan 2010 28343 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:31 am to NYCAuburn)
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oh you live in cleveland
Geographical Boom!
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NYCAuburn  Auburn Fan TD Platinum Membership Member since Feb 2011 17309 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:33 am to yankeeundercover)
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Geographical Pity Boom!
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Rantavious  LSU Fan Bossier ''get down'' City Member since Jan 2007 1114 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:42 pm to NYCAuburn)
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Cleveland be a shithole, yo
Denver without the background
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gthog61  Georgia Tech Fan Irving, TX Member since Nov 2009 1460 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/5/12 at 9:15 pm to Rantavious)
They are also Occupiers as well as anarchists but you aren't going to hear very much about that.
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Sheep  USA Fan Straight Outta Acy Member since Jun 2007 12985 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/5/12 at 9:23 pm to gthog61)
Got a link for that?
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molsusports  LSU Fan Member since Jul 2004 22895 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/9/12 at 4:06 pm to foshizzle)
the guy in the middle looks like Jimmy (Michael Pitt) from Boardwalk Empire The guy on the right is rocking a Unabomber hair cut... pretty diverse hair styles for a band of anarchists
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CaptSpaulding  Alabama Fan Member since Feb 2012 781 posts

| re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland (Posted on 5/9/12 at 4:27 pm to GRTiger)
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Far right, is that an Avett brother?
Avett Brother or Anarchist? Sounds like a fun drinking game.
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