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foshizzle
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


They look like winners.







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hg
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"Come on down to Cleveland town everyone, it's so polluted that all our fish have aids."





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TreyAnastasio
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


I think 2 of those guys are in Arcade Fire





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nycajun
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Prominentwon
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


White people problems.





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When in Rome
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


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Wonder why they are described as "anarchists" instead of terrorists
I was thinking the same thing. Even most anarchists would reject what they were planning on doing:
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Anarchism is not terrorism. An overwhelming majority of anarchists have always rejected terrorism, because they've been intelligent enough to realize that means determine ends, that terrorism is inherently vanguardist, and that even when "successful" it almost always leads to bad results.

The anonymous authors of You Can't Blow Up a Social Relationship: The Anarchist Case Against Terrorism put it like this: You can't blow up a social relationship. The total collapse of this society would provide no guarantee about what replaced it. Unless a majority of people had the ideas and organization sufficient for the creation of an alternative society, we would see the old world reassert itself because it is what people would be used to, what they believed in, what existed unchallenged in their own personalities.

Proponents of terrorism and guerrillaism are to be opposed because their actions are vanguardist and authoritarian, because their ideas, to the extent that they are substantial, are wrong or unrelated to the results of their actions (especially when they call themselves libertarians or anarchists), because their killing cannot be justified, and finally because their actions produce either repression with nothing in return, or an authoritarian regime.

2 Decades of government and corporate slander cannot alter this reality: the overwhelming majority of anarchists reject terrorism for both practical and ethical reasons. In the late 1990s, Time magazine called Ted Kaczynski "the king of the anarchists"; but that doesn't make it so. Time's words are just another typical, perhaps deliberately dishonest, attempt to tar all anarchists with the terrorist brush.


This is not to say that armed resistance is never appropriate. Clearly there are situations in which one has little choice, as when facing a dictatorship that suppresses civil liberties and prevents one from acting openly, which has happened repeatedly in many countries.

Even then, armed resistance should be undertaken reluctantly and as a last resort, because violence is inherently undesirable due to the suffering it causes; because it provides repressive regimes excuses for further repression; because it provides them with the opportunity to commit atrocities against civilians and to blame those atrocities on their "terrorist" opponents; and because, as history has shown, the chances of success are very low.

Even though armed resistance may sometimes be called for in repressive situations, it's a far different matter to succumb to the romance of the gun and to engage in urban guerrilla warfare in relatively open societies in which civil liberties are largely intact and in which one does not have mass popular support at the start of one's violent campaign.

Violence in such situations does little but drive the public into the "protective" arms of the government; narrow political dialogue (tending to polarize the populace into pro- and anti-guerrilla factions); turn politics into a spectator sport for the vast majority of people3; provide the government with the excuse to suppress civil liberties; and induce the onset of repressive regimes "better" able to handle the "terrorist" problem than their more tolerant predecessors. It's also worth mentioning that the chances of success of such violent, vanguardist campaigns are microscopic. They are simply arrogant, ill-thought-out roads to disaster.4


I suppose in the simplest sense, they were probably known for being anarchists who were doing this for some type of cause, rather than just to inspire terror

eta: I would consider them terrorists too



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GRTiger
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Far right, is that an Avett brother?





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TreyAnastasio
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


I wonder why they would choose that bridge. Its not anywhere near downtown and it isnt very heavily trafficked. If they blew up the 480 bridge, that would cause some anarchy.


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diddydirtyAubie
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


quote:

TreyAnastasio


damn...you're still here.






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Yewkindewit
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


probably a practice round.....been to Cleveland once for a work meeting. No memories remain of the trip....





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Traveler
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


quote:

If they blew up the 480 bridge, that would cause some anarchy.



No doubt.






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NYCAuburn
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You can all suck on my left nut. Especially NYC.



Why you so mad though........oh you live in cleveland. :prayerrequestthreadintheworks:






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yankeeundercover
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


quote:

oh you live in cleveland
Geographical Boom!






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NYCAuburn
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Geographical Pity Boom!






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Rantavious
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


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Cleveland be a shithole, yo


Denver without the background






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gthog61
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


They are also Occupiers as well as anarchists but you aren't going to hear very much about that.





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Sheep
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


Got a link for that?





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molsusports
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland





the guy in the middle looks like Jimmy (Michael Pitt) from Boardwalk Empire

The guy on the right is rocking a Unabomber hair cut... pretty diverse hair styles for a band of anarchists






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CaptSpaulding
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re: Breaking News: 5 Arrested for Plot to Blow Up Bridge In Cleveland


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Far right, is that an Avett brother?


Avett Brother or Anarchist? Sounds like a fun drinking game.



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