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Cracking 
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:10 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
Because government money is usually funneled to liberal areas to appease the base. In this way, the conservatives usually fix fiscal problems before they hire union street cleaners, build a park and fund an art wall.
Also all city improvements are regulated by the government instead of private sector so those cities just dip into the bottomless budget unlike a private corp that must pay attention to bottom lines.
So usually conservatives are fighting an uphill battle to get the government out of our pockets, but trying to argue with geniuses like the OP that say, "BUT WOW these cities are SOOOOO PRETTY so the libs MUST be doing it right" (while the state and local budgets look like a crime scene).
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cahoots 
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:10 pm to jcole4lsu)
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yeah OP left out plenty of liberal shitholes.
Definitely.
Again, it's not about being liberal or conservative, it's about being smart. e.g. Louisiana struggles partly because we don't place the kind of value on education that other areas do. I'm not really sure that you can blame one side or the other for that.
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:11 pm to urinetrouble)
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Liberals seem to embrace smart growth, city planning, anti-sprawl measures, etc. But there are exceptions like Los Angeles.
The boom that made Los Angeles could never have been planned for. BTW, Los Angeles was much more conservative and became more liberal as the years went by. Even when I first moved here it was much more conservative.
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Draconian Sanctions
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:13 pm to los angeles tiger)
Portland and Seattle are 2 more I forgot.
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cahoots
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:13 pm to Cracking)
Despite the budget problems in areas like Cali, they're still much better off than we are. It's nice that Louisiana's budget is balanced. It's not so nice that people in California make twice as much $ as us.
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BamaFan89 
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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Chicago
Yeah, their extremely high crime rate is just wonderful.
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HailHailtoMichigan! 
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Member since Mar 2012
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:14 pm to cahoots)
True, but you have to consider the cost of living.
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Cracking
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:16 pm to cahoots)
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It's not so nice that people in California make twice as much $ as us
cost of living... probably partially due to taxation.
so it is relative.
Try and be a private land owner in San Fran. 900 Sq Ft costs in excess of $600,000 in livable areas.
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
Never spent any time in Portland but I agree that Seattle is a friendly city. Then again, I find most places to be friendly. I tend to look for the good and strike up conversations with people everywhere I've gone. I kinda sense that you are that way as well.
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Draconian Sanctions
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:18 pm to los angeles tiger)
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:21 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
Oh wait, there are some cities, especially one, in a certain state but that's due to my disdain for pure, unadulterated evil.
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RollTide4Ever
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:24 pm to urinetrouble)
Those cities became great before they became liberal. Look a
T Detroit.
Btw, I think the city management is in Singapore.
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ottothewise
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:26 pm to jcole4lsu)
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both san fran and chicago are broke, so i wouldnt call them "nice".
California and Illinois get back 75 cents for every dollar they sent to the US treasury.
Louisiana gets back about $1.50.
Chicago and SF/SJ are supporting Louisiana.
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Taxing Authority
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:27 pm to jcole4lsu)
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also should be noted that actual "liberals" from say, california, are shocked at how conservative Austin really is.
I've met some of them! "We thought this place was supposed to be progressive" I was like "Dude, it's still in TX. This place is liberal FOR TEXAS!" They are planning to move to Colorado.
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RollTide4Ever
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:29 pm to Taxing Authority)
Typical. They run a place into the ground and now they're fleeing.
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Taxing Authority
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:30 pm to ottothewise)
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California and Illinois get back 75 cents for every dollar they sent to the US treasury. ... Louisiana gets back about $1.50.
Tax the rich. Give to the poor. The liberal ideal.
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Powerman
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:30 pm to cahoots)
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Despite the budget problems in areas like Cali, they're still much better off than we are. It's nice that Louisiana's budget is balanced. It's not so nice that people in California make twice as much $ as us.
But in any of the big cities where you would want to live your increase in salary would be completely engulfed by real estate costs.
Try looking at the difference in home prices between Baton Rouge and Los Angeles and you tell me which city you will struggle in more financially.
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Y.A. Tittle
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:34 pm to kingbob)
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Baton Rouge's government has been controlled by liberals for decades and look how nice it is here.
LOL, what?
Silly fricking thread, but really, what?
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jcole4lsu 
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:38 pm to cahoots)
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Despite the budget problems in areas like Cali, they're still much better off than we are
you have never looked for an apartment in california i see.
i was given an chance to transfer to L.A. once i went apartment hunting, i declined the transfer and returned to texas (from las vegas).
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cahoots
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| re: Why is it that the liberal cities are generally the nicest in the country? (Posted on 4/23/12 at 9:43 pm to jcole4lsu)
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you have never looked for an apartment in california i see.
No, but I have done so in NYC
I know they have their problems, I just pointing out that there are more opportunities over there. Although they're leaving for TX as we speak.
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