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re: Is Mark Barron the most Over Rated Player being touted as a 1st rounder?
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:23 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:23 pm to wildtigercat93
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His point was that they are not infalliable
in other news, sun to rise in east.
Who said they were infallible? Saying they are way smarter on draft prospects than message board posters does not = infallible. All the guy i responded to is doing is using 20/20 hindsight. Of course there are busts every year and there are lots of reasons for someone to bust. In the case of Leaf, its not cause he was lacking in skill. You can't judge decisions like that after the fact.
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 1:50 pm to JJ27
quote:and 99% of you Lsu fans predicted a win on Jan. 9th,I'll take the nfl scouts opinions over LSU fans,all day everyday...
NFL Execs thought Ryan Leaf was a stud too.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 2:22 pm to UASports23
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They could have gotten him 2nd round.
or taken some one else
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Menzie (who will go 2nd to 3rd round) > Jackson. IMO. Menzie was pretty legit this past year.
I like Menzie as a 2/3 round guy.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 2:24 pm to TT9
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NFL Execs thought Ryan Leaf was a stud too.
and 99% of you Lsu fans predicted a win on Jan. 9th,I'll take the nfl scouts opinions over LSU fans,all day everyday...
This is a pretty idiotic comparison the 2 are not remotely related. If you guys want to have a discussion, lets discuss, if all you want to do is brag about 1/9/12 go back to the SEC Rant
Posted on 4/11/12 at 2:26 pm to JJ27
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NFL Execs thought Ryan Leaf was a stud too.
He was a stud prospect. You can't judge decisions like that with 20/20 hindsight.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 2:36 pm to H-Town Tiger
I was talking about who was more credible as far as predictions go dumbass..
And I'm taking the NFL execs all day long...
And I'm taking the NFL execs all day long...
Posted on 4/11/12 at 2:53 pm to lsuhunt555
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Roman Harper wasn't nearly as highly regarded at Barron is and I'd bet good money his NFL career doesn't come close to Harpers.
Roman Harper has a ring, it's hard to compare him to a guy who's never played an NFL snap.
And as far st NFL guys' predictions, of course they get many wrong but I still trust their insight over anyone on a message board.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 3:14 pm to RJYH
I can assure you my evaluation has nothing to do with him being from Bama. I'm looking at this purely through a Dallas Cowboys life long fan perspective. I don't care which college you come from if you are good. I would take Hightower or Kirkpatrick or Trent Richardson in a heartbeat. I do not want Barron anywhere near my team.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 3:16 pm to H-Town Tiger
He was a stud, unless they did a mental exam on him. I have nothing against Barron. I wouldn't want my team to take him in the first round though. Not with his injury history.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 3:27 pm to Tiger Ryno
That's cool with me. I think he was a very consistent guy who made plays when there was lesser talent around him, as in he stood up to the plate, and he continued to do that throughout his career but he was overshadowed at times. I can only remember 2 times in his career when I wasn't happy with his play, Auburn 2010 (didn't know he was injured), and his freshman year against Utah.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 4:21 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The pros would run circles around you and everyone else on these boards. Sure, they might miss on a guy some fan thought would be good or over rated a guy fans of the opposing college said was over rated, but then again a broke clock is right twice a day.
NFL pros would run circles around us.
I'm still not convinced about NBA GMs though.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 4:31 pm to Tiger Ryno
I'm a Michael Brockers fan, but I think top 10 is too early for him.
I know he dropped quite a bit lately in the mocks and I think 20's is about right for him. I see him being a solid starter, but not quite top 10 worthy.
I know he dropped quite a bit lately in the mocks and I think 20's is about right for him. I see him being a solid starter, but not quite top 10 worthy.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 7:09 am to Tiger Ryno
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I would take Hightower or Kirkpatrick or Trent Richardson in a heartbeat. I do not want Barron anywhere near my team.
I think you either meant Upshaw instead of Hightower or forgot to include Upshaw. Upshaw is the rush OLB while Hightower is the ILB for a 3-4. Either of them would be fine with me and I have Upshaw and Kirkpatrick as my 2nd and 3rd choices behind Poe. Something keeps telling me that the numbers Poe put up at the Combine aren't a thing of luck and hopefully Rob Ryan can find it
Posted on 4/27/12 at 10:59 am to Tiger Ryno
Great call OP 
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:03 am to TreyAnastasio
Wouldn't the fact that he went way higher than even anticipated suggest that he is, in fact, the most overrated?
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:04 am to GeauxAggie972
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I think you either meant Upshaw instead of Hightower or forgot to include Upshaw. Upshaw is the rush OLB while Hightower is the ILB for a 3-4. Either of them would be fine with me and I have Upshaw and Kirkpatrick as my 2nd and 3rd choices behind Poe. Something keeps telling me that the numbers Poe put up at the Combine aren't a thing of luck and hopefully Rob Ryan can find it
I think tonight showed the NFL thought Hightower was better than Upshaw.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:08 am to OBUDan
Did he really go way higher than anticipated? I think it was pretty much assumed he wouldn't be around past 14 at latest.
Obviously, NFL scouts aren't infallible, but at least they have the real game film and can actually analyze his coverage skills. On here he's a liability in coverage because he got burned a few times over three years.
Obviously, NFL scouts aren't infallible, but at least they have the real game film and can actually analyze his coverage skills. On here he's a liability in coverage because he got burned a few times over three years.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:19 am to Tiger Ryno
Mo Claiborne - dude needs to be on the watch list if he really said: 'who cares, I'm done with college and studying' after scoring a 4 on the Wonderlic.
Uh, the NFL's not a party. One wonders how hard he'll work or understands what he's expected to do/study/work - there's been some lazy-asses from the same pipeline.
Uh, the NFL's not a party. One wonders how hard he'll work or understands what he's expected to do/study/work - there's been some lazy-asses from the same pipeline.
This post was edited on 4/27/12 at 11:20 am
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:38 am to Crede15
Way over rated, tampa bay was very stupid with that pick.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:56 am to TigerBait2008
Its amazing that the only people who this he is over rated are LSU fans. Coincidence?
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