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aaronb023 
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 11:28 am to LSURussian)
the yahoo stock screener was saying they both had a yield above 4. but yeah, i see what you mean
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Clay1582
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 11:34 am to LSURussian)
What would you consider an acceptable payout ratio and why? I've never kept it long term, just for a few months here and there, but I would like to add one or two to my portfolio.
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ynlvr
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 11:35 am to LSURussian)
DLR is a REIT play that could add some desired dimension to a current portfolio. EPS and Dividends are on the rise. Positive earnings surprise last quarter and Yield >4%
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LSURussian
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 11:37 am to Clay1582)
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What would you consider an acceptable payout ratio and why?
It depends on the industry but no more than 100% regardless of the industry. Any company paying 100%+ is paying dividends out of capital and that's a no-no for me.
ETA: I just bought 1K shares of ETR (Entergy) at $67.26 for a yield of 4.94%.
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aaronb023
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 11:43 am to LSURussian)
how about BIP
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LSURussian
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 11:48 am to aaronb023)
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how about BIP
With an almost 90% drop in quarterly earnings year over year I think I'll watch them a while.
I am not familiar with this company. Did they buy another company in 2010? They more than doubled their assets in 2010. Hard to imagine they grew that much organically in one year.
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datdude3384
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 12:17 pm to LSURussian)
CTL
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 12:21 pm to datdude3384)
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CTL
Payout ratio over 250%.
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tirebiter
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 12:28 pm to LSURussian)
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What's your take?
My take is the T CEO should have been fired for the failed T-Mobile acquisition and resulting multi-billion break up fee, not that it failed but him agreeing to such a ridiculous fee knowing there was a significant chance of rejection/denial by the Feds. I can't understand how the guy kept his job and the board slapped his wrist and cut his bonus 25%. Still was paid > $18M + stock options, not the guy I would put my money on.
I haven't bought any individual stocks since Sep/Oct, the utility sector appears highly valued due to its run-up, even with a slight pullback. EXC is out there for analysis, but I can't get comfortable with it. Bought TOT and STO last fall, TOT dividend is ~ 4.5% now, but you have to pay foreign tax on the dividends.
I made some changes in one IRA, sold some appreciated securities and bought a toe hold in PQIIX for 25k. Pimco hired the equity mgt team from Thornburg/TIBIX that has performed very well the last 10-years. It may not be your cup of tea, and the institutional shares are the only class worth buying due to expenses. It also holds some foreign bonds, which may not fit your criteria.
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LazloHollyfeld
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 12:30 pm to LSURussian)
Ares Capital - ARCC
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Zilla
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 12:41 pm to LSURussian)
why the change of style ?
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LSURussian
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 12:43 pm to Zilla)
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why the change of style ?
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I'm getting bored with day trading.
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tirebiter
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 12:44 pm to LSURussian)
PS - that is a stressful way to be bored. 
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Zilla
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 12:46 pm to LSURussian)
how about MO ? or CAG (although it's a little under 4%)
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LSURussian
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 12:47 pm to LazloHollyfeld)
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Ares Capital - ARCC
Payout ratio over 150%. Almost a negative net cash flow for 2011. Dividend is likely unsustainable.
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Janky
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 1:00 pm to LSURussian)
UAN, WSR, RIG, CTL
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PlanoPrivateer
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 1:10 pm to LSURussian)
Interesting thread. Question, the dividend payout % you are using is it the trailing twelve months? Is it current dividend divided by earnings? I have some Ely Lilly and have Entergy on my watch list and one that hasn’t been mentioned yet is GE. GE cut their dividend in 2009 but it looks like they are trying to periodically raise it. Stock price is still about ½ of its all time high.
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LSURussian
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 1:12 pm to Zilla)
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so is it safe to assume you haven't done as well with day trading lately ? just curious
Not a safe assumption at all. I've made 29 trades in 2012 and lost money on only one trade.
Realized gains for the seven and half weeks of 2012 = $8,158.94 for an average of 33 basis points per trade.
I did a pro forma dividend portfolio spreadsheet of 17 companies which gives a yield of about 4.5% using about 1/3 of my total stocks portfolio.
I'm not going all in at one time, especially with the market where it's at today, but I'm gradually buying into some companies when they have a price pull back.
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aaronb023
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 1:15 pm to LSURussian)
i think you named most of the ones worth having already
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LSURussian
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| re: I'm getting bored with day trading. So, I'm going to create... (Posted on 2/22/12 at 1:16 pm to PlanoPrivateer)
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Question, the dividend payout % you are using is it the trailing twelve months?
I'm using the Yahoo financial website rather than coming up with the numbers myself. After you enter the stock symbol look down the left hand side with all the related links to "Key Statistics." If you click on that it will give you on the lower right hand side the payout ratio. It appears to be a trailing 12 month ratio but I'm not 100% sure of that. Whatever it is, it's good enough for me to decide if I want to add a company to my watch list.
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one that hasn’t been mentioned yet is GE. GE cut their dividend in 2009 but it looks like they are trying to periodically raise it.
I can't stand their CEO. He's incompetent, IMO.
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