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re: Distilling down Les Miles

Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32455 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:30 am to
It is hard to "love him without hating him". That's an interesting dynamic, I never thought of it. While it's true that he does do some things well and has a certain enigmatic quality to him that endears him to some fans and players. It's just hard to separate all the 'little' good things he does with the monumental, colossal few 'bad' things he does. There's no counterbalance, the few bad things stand out so much bigger than the many little good things.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:31 am to
You do realize that the team that just won the NC has relied on those principles all year long. And that team won the same way a few years ago against Texas. Football is won in the trenches and that's SEC football, not Big 10 football.

Alabama beat us in the trenches and their QB outplayed ours. It was a bad game for us on all fronts. We went undefeated in the regular season against one of the toughest schedules of all time, with Miles' principles.

All these complaints aren't about Miles' style of play, they are just dressed up to look that way because of the insane attachment to Lee around this place. Face it Lee wasn't a great QB. We lost the NC game, and we lost because of more reasons than just the QB.

Miles deserves fair criticism (as well as praise), but some of this is going way off the deep end.
This post was edited on 1/18/12 at 9:34 am
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32455 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:31 am to
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Seriously. He is in 6 other threads repeating the same horseshite.
Someone has to balance out your horseshite in the other 35 threads I guess.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:37 am to
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Please help the LSU tigers now lord. We need your help like never before. What evil dust has blown into tiger stadium?


wtf are you rambling about?
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:42 am to
Miles is an football enigma! I realize trying to understand him is impossible. Viewing him like that makes accepting him a lot easier.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:45 am to
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Les Miles is being giving to much credit for LSU football program success and he is not really all that smart of a college football head coach. What are you talking about?


your ignorance
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:47 am to
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Les Miles is being giving to much credit for LSU football program success and he is not really all that smart of a college football head coach. What are you talking about


Funny how he gets none of the credit and all of the blame.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:47 am to
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Les Miles is being giving to much credit for LSU football program success and he is not really all that smart of a college football head coach. What are you talking about?


Explain. Can't wait to read this.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:48 am to
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Funny how he gets none of the credit and all of the blame.


It's easy to pick out football stupid rantards like GoldRing.
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:48 am to
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Choctaw


Are you a student? Just wondering after watching you post so much day after day. Not complaining, just curious.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:50 am to
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Are you a student? Just wondering after watching you post so much day after day. Not complaining, just curious.




nope....i just have great job that gives me ample time to own rantards as i please
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 9:52 am to
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nope....i just have great job that gives me ample time to own rantards as i please


Understand. I have a simuliar situtation, but doing some quick math came up with approximately 15 posts a day for roughly 54 months. Wow.
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:00 am to
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Les Miles can't evaluate QB without the help of more better able football coaches around him. He is a phony pure and simple. That is why all the evasive double talk. A clown in the wrong way. A out right failure as a person and as a man. A everyday con who was hired by a very good college football program LSU. He is lucky to be as far along as he is. So far, up until now.

I hope GoldRing doesn't actually have a degree from LSU because I feel like he is making mine less valuable by each post.


Dear God, I heard that. Plus he's just wrong. Seriously wrong.
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:06 am to
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Posted byMessage
GoldRing
Distilling down Les Miles


Les Miles can't coach!


Brother, you are embarrassing yourself. Just sayin'.
Posted by geauxgrrl
Lafayette area
Member since Mar 2004
1088 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 1:19 pm to
It's really funny to hear some folks say that Nick is the greatest college coach in the business today, then criticize Les for running the same type of offense that Nick runs at Bama. Run first, Pass when you have to...Bama played that all year, folks...one of the reasons they were so successful in the MNC is they changed their tendencies (& we did not, which was a coaching error) and started passing, esp. on first down. Les sees the QB as a game manager...Nick sees the QB as a game manager...there's no difference. In the MNC, Nick changed his philosophy and it worked as it was so unexpected (at least to the LSU coaching staff and that's their bad)...but to say that Les doesn't want to pass is a bit simplistic...there were down the field passes called in the MNC...the QB didn't execute...if the players don't execute...generally their team loses. Les has always seemed to learn from his mistakes (clock mgt, playing only upperclassmen, etc.) & I haven't noticed that he makes the same mistakes twice and...unlike Nick...Les is still open to learning new things about the game...Nick, mistakenly believes he invented the game (I understand that myth is now part of Alabama school history texts)...so I look for him to still emphasize the run but pass the ball much more since we'll have a QB that can actually pass effectively. Unfortunately, coaches, even the best ones, are limited by their personnel. That's why, great players make great coaches.
Posted by tiger88
Member since Jan 2006
1041 posts
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:12 am to
Bama did not change anything about their game except to prepare for it, which *LM seemingly did not; we saw improvement in 'Bama's motivation, special teams play, and field goal kicking.

LSU? Despite that the starting QB struggled from the very first snap, Miles refused to consider the other good options available to him. (A very large percentage of LSU watchers know this; it's not debatable).

This post was edited on 1/19/12 at 8:15 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:17 am to
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Bama did not change anything about their game except to prepare for it, which *LM seemingly did not; we saw improvement in 'Bama's motivation, special teams play, and field goal kicking.

LSU? Despite that the starting QB struggled from the very first snap, Miles refused to consider the other good options available to him. (A very large percentage of LSU watchers know this; it's not debatable).


you're not telling us anything we don't already know. many of us have decided to move on and not let it ruin our lives.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:17 am to
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Bama did not change anything about their game except to prepare for it


Uh, yes they did. they threw the ball more times on first down than any other game this season and barely ran Richardson.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50453 posts
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:20 am to
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i think he's done that the last couple of years because of the situation we were in at QB.

thats not they way we won from '05 to '07


This.

Instead of being thankful we won 24 games the past two seasons with average to below average QBs, people are pissed.

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/19/12 at 8:23 am to
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and the effect on recruiting.


go check out the recruiting board
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