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I thought JJ played well "most" of the year
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:09 pm
Well at least for him anyway. It seemed like he worked hard in the off season after a relatively strong finish last year (read Bama, Ole Miss, A&M games). The suspension seemed to make him even better. When he came in relief for Lee up to and through the Bama game, JJ played his role quite well. He had no turnovers to my knowledge until the Arky game, ran the option and read's better than he ever has, and threw the ball relatively well. I think he felt like he had something to prove. When Lee and JJ were both playing for those ~4 games, LSU was at its very best imo. JJ was never a liability, but a huge asset to the offense.
Unfortunately, the benching of Lee brought out the worst in JJ imo. He no longer played with a chip on his shoulder and got progressively worse as the season went on. He (and the offense) reverted back to the Crowton offense. It al culminated with whatever that NC game was. Was it just me, or was he pitching the ball on the option with the defender 3 yards away?
The worst thing is that Lee and JJ together at their best may have been a great QB for this team (and for a while they were). I am as pro-Miles as they get, but will never understand why we abandoned a system that worked beautifully from Kentucky through Auburn (40+ ppg), to become one-dimensional. I, like most Tiger fans, are happy the Lee/JJ saga is over.
Unfortunately, the benching of Lee brought out the worst in JJ imo. He no longer played with a chip on his shoulder and got progressively worse as the season went on. He (and the offense) reverted back to the Crowton offense. It al culminated with whatever that NC game was. Was it just me, or was he pitching the ball on the option with the defender 3 yards away?
The worst thing is that Lee and JJ together at their best may have been a great QB for this team (and for a while they were). I am as pro-Miles as they get, but will never understand why we abandoned a system that worked beautifully from Kentucky through Auburn (40+ ppg), to become one-dimensional. I, like most Tiger fans, are happy the Lee/JJ saga is over.
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:10 pm to lsumatt
duck
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:11 pm to lsumatt
What he ^ said
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:11 pm to lsumatt
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happy the Lee/JJ saga is over.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:13 pm to lsumatt
Yeah, agreed, he was good in that Oregon and West Virginia game
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:14 pm to lsumatt
I really saw that improvement that Miles raved about in the off season.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:16 pm to lsumatt
Look at the defenses he looked good against. Bama- no turnovers but no scoring. Plus we had the advantage of catching them by surprise. WKU, Ole Miss, Arky- no good defense there. UGA- good defense, bad performance. Then the NCG.... he didn't have a good game against any good defenses. We will never know if Lee could have had his night of redemption.....
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:17 pm to lsumatt
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(read Bama, Ole Miss, A&M games)
Look up the pass defense rankings for Ole Miss and A&M. Alabama 2010 and BAMA-01-2011 are two anomolies, which fed the false hope.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:17 pm to lsumatt
I thought he looked improved till Georgia. Then he looked like a freshman again.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:18 pm to lsumatt
Who is this Lee and JJ you speak of?
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:24 pm to lsumatt
He didn't even play most of the year...
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:25 pm to lsumatt
Because he didn't play most of the year.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:38 pm to lsumatt
Did you not notice the difference in how much more efficient the offense was under Lee? Less confusion,wasted time outs and penalties.Much more production from the RB's and WR's.The entire offense suffered under JJ.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:41 pm to lsumatt
I thought JJ played about the same his entire LSU career with little to no progression... he had his games i.e. Chickfila Bowl and Cotton Bowl but those were abnormal
Posted on 1/15/12 at 11:41 pm to lsumatt
quote:LMFAO!!!!!! He did play most of the year(thank God). We won most of the time in spite of him not because of him. Everyone knows Les should have yanked him after the shouvel pass to Ware and then JJ he goes over and b**ches out Ware. Give me break.
Well at least for him anyway. It seemed like he worked hard in the off season after a relatively strong finish last year (read Bama, Ole Miss, A&M games). The suspension seemed to make him even better. When he came in relief for Lee up to and through the Bama game, JJ played his role quite well. He had no turnovers to my knowledge until the Arky game, ran the option and read's better than he ever has, and threw the ball relatively well. I think he felt like he had something to prove. When Lee and JJ were both playing for those ~4 games, LSU was at its very best imo. JJ was never a liability, but a huge asset to the offense.
Unfortunately, the benching of Lee brought out the worst in JJ imo. He no longer played with a chip on his shoulder and got progressively worse as the season went on. He (and the offense) reverted back to the Crowton offense. It al culminated with whatever that NC game was. Was it just me, or was he pitching the ball on the option with the defender 3 yards away?
The worst thing is that Lee and JJ together at their best may have been a great QB for this team (and for a while they were). I am as pro-Miles as they get, but will never understand why we abandoned a system that worked beautifully from Kentucky through Auburn (40+ ppg), to become one-dimensional. I, like most Tiger fans, are happy the Lee/JJ saga is over.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:10 am to lsumatt
No leadership and at best a flip of the coin performer
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:16 am to lsumatt
JJ struggles when he is forced to throw from the pocket and he is inconsistent as a passer. He goes through serious swings of inconsistency.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 7:31 am to lsumatt
I don't know if it's quite that simple ... the 2 games we struggled the most offensively were against UGA and Bama. Both teams run an agressive, pressure-happy 3-4. Really those 2 teams were by far the best 2 defenses we played. They were the perfect defenses to counter our offense--take away the run and force the pass. With Lee's struggles under pressure, I'm not sure the result would've been any different, and likely would've been worse. And what get's lost in the QB debates is the performance of the rest of the team--our OL struggled big time in the first half against UGA and the entire game against Bama.
That said, I too am glad that the Lee/JJ saga is over.
That said, I too am glad that the Lee/JJ saga is over.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 8:02 am to lsumatt
He didn't play most of the year...
Posted on 1/16/12 at 8:06 am to lsumatt
quote:Are you kidding me, look at the first 7 games and the productivity of the offense (without Jefferson). If Jefferson never played a down in 2011, would Mett have played a significant number of snaps to help us win games even the Nov 5th game and possibly the NC game. I guess we will never know.
When Lee and JJ were both playing for those ~4 games, LSU was at its very best imo.
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