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re: Let's Talk Optics!!
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:15 am to Nawlens Gator
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:15 am to Nawlens Gator
VxI is not a great scope.
I had a Nikon Buckmaster on a 270 for years. Killed a lot of deer with it. It held zero. THat's about all I can say favorable about it.
Worked a round up for a friend this year who had a Bushnell on his 270wsm. I have nothing bad to say about it in the 50 or so rounds I put through it. He got rid of it and got a Trijicon.
I just don't get the "all you'll need in La" argument. Are people trying to say that 300-500 yd shots just don't exist in La? Does the sun not rise and set in La? Scopes don't fog in La? Lens glare not a problem? Rifles don't recoil as hard? Seriously, WTF does that statement mean?
I had a Nikon Buckmaster on a 270 for years. Killed a lot of deer with it. It held zero. THat's about all I can say favorable about it.
Worked a round up for a friend this year who had a Bushnell on his 270wsm. I have nothing bad to say about it in the 50 or so rounds I put through it. He got rid of it and got a Trijicon.
I just don't get the "all you'll need in La" argument. Are people trying to say that 300-500 yd shots just don't exist in La? Does the sun not rise and set in La? Scopes don't fog in La? Lens glare not a problem? Rifles don't recoil as hard? Seriously, WTF does that statement mean?
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:33 am to INFIDEL
I want a scope that has longevity, but I don't want to buy a name/insignia/brand without a performance advantage.
I am most concerned with low-light and zero. If the more expensive brands deliver these qualities...then I am all aboard.
I am concerned about dropping $1,400 on a scope and some guy whips out the Nikon Monarch and gathers more light than me.
I am most concerned with low-light and zero. If the more expensive brands deliver these qualities...then I am all aboard.
I am concerned about dropping $1,400 on a scope and some guy whips out the Nikon Monarch and gathers more light than me.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:34 am to INFIDEL
Straining to determine rack size in twilight is what drove me to a high $ Zeiss.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:36 am to Nawlens Gator
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Straining to determine rack size in twilight is what drove me to a high $ Zeiss.
I have 8x56 Zeiss Binoculars for that. The problem is seeing deer in the binoculars and not being able to pick it up in the scope.
I may need a watch that keeps better time after sunset, and not a better scope.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 9:55 am to Five0
I had a Nikon which was, and still is on my .45-70, a very nice scope. I have a Zeiss on my meat packer though. I wouldn't say there is much difference between the two more the most part. My zeiss gets more daylight but in the moment I would take either one.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 10:03 am to Five0
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Don't skimp on the rings either. I use nothing but:
I don't know if he needs anything that beefy. I mean, he's no "hunter of men" or anything.
All bullshite aside. Badger is badass.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 10:16 am to INFIDEL
Been using TPS rings and bases lately. They are more affordable then the Badgers and have a really good reputation.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 7:59 pm to INFIDEL
The VXL is suppose to be top of the line. It still sells for around $1100 at Simmions.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:06 pm to DONHOGG
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The VXL is suppose to be top of the line. It still sells for around $1100 at Simmions.
Yeah. I get that. If you are posting that in regards to my earlier post about compromising standards, then step back and think about that again. Leupold has progressed to that point while Zeiss was producing high end optics for years before they came out with their Conquest line of scopes. It's like MeOpta and Swarovsky, but at least they had the decency to change the name.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:36 pm to INFIDEL
I have 2 Leupold 3.5x10 50mm that are 20 years old now and both still work perfect. I shoot my guns every year at the beginning of the season and haven't had to reset the sights on either in over 5 years. Great scope for the money!
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:42 pm to tigerwolfe
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that are 20 years old
I am buying one new. Has the quality dropped on the brand over 20 years?
I am concerned about buying a conquest and essentially paying an extra $300 dollars for the Z on the scope without a jump in performance.
So far the opinions are all over the map.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 11:34 pm to INFIDEL
It's all good. I only comment on stuff I use and know. It helps when you don't pay for some of the stuff you use and have hook ups on some of the stuff you do have to come out of pocket for.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 6:12 am to NimbleCat
Just get a Leupold. You wont regret it. Promise
Posted on 12/19/11 at 6:21 am to Bama and Beer
I have been using a VX III 6.5 x 20 x50 for over 10 yrs it has been a very good scope. I would like to try one of the high end scopes though.
I have the VX I and Nikons on my kids rifles and my 45/70 they have been very good scopes as well.
I learned a long time ago you get what you pay for when it comes to optics.
I have the VX I and Nikons on my kids rifles and my 45/70 they have been very good scopes as well.
I learned a long time ago you get what you pay for when it comes to optics.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 6:37 am to offshoretrash
Your last sentence is the truth
Posted on 12/19/11 at 7:30 am to NimbleCat
IMO, get the vx3, if you want a better scope then spend real money and go night force or swarovsky.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 8:47 am to Dooshay
Nikon Buckmaster 3x9-50 on my Remmy 700 30-06
Nikon Monarch 4x12-50 on my Savage 112 7mm mag
Swarovoski Z3 4x12-50 on my Browning x-bolt 300 WSM
I love the Nikons. They gather great light and hold a great zero on some hard hitting guns. However, I ran across a deal on a Swarovoski that I couldn't pass up and let me say, it's the tits.
I think that my Nikon Monarch is comparable to my fathers Leopuld VX3 and that any scope that costed more was just throwing money away. Well the Swarovoski is absolutely worth the extra $200 I paid for the Monarch and probably worth the $700 difference in retail pricing.
I am convinced that when it comes to scopes, you get what you pay for. Sure there are some very good scopes which have moderate price tags on them, but don't pick up a higher end scope cuz you won't put it down.
Nikon Monarch 4x12-50 on my Savage 112 7mm mag
Swarovoski Z3 4x12-50 on my Browning x-bolt 300 WSM
I love the Nikons. They gather great light and hold a great zero on some hard hitting guns. However, I ran across a deal on a Swarovoski that I couldn't pass up and let me say, it's the tits.
I think that my Nikon Monarch is comparable to my fathers Leopuld VX3 and that any scope that costed more was just throwing money away. Well the Swarovoski is absolutely worth the extra $200 I paid for the Monarch and probably worth the $700 difference in retail pricing.
I am convinced that when it comes to scopes, you get what you pay for. Sure there are some very good scopes which have moderate price tags on them, but don't pick up a higher end scope cuz you won't put it down.
Posted on 12/19/11 at 8:57 am to Ice Cream Sammich
ICS, so can you get me a Swarovoski for the price you paid??
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