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Seth Davis nails it, and he could probably care less about LSU hoops

Posted on 12/15/11 at 8:44 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43231 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 8:44 am
Will this year be the final year of the Trent Johnson era at LSU? As a LSU fan out here in the northwest, when they hired him my thinking was it would be a good fit, but it doesn't seem to be working.
-- John Hayes, Spokane, WA

I don't do a lot of coach-on-the-hot-seat speculating because it is often baseless, and I'm sensitive to the fact that these are real people whose livelihoods are at stake. But while I hope that Johnson can hang on because I think he is a good coach and a good guy, there is no doubt that his job security is tenuous.

John used the exact right word in his e-mail: fit. Whether a certain coach can succeed in a specific situation depends mostly on how well he fits there. Trent Johnson was born in Berkeley, went to high school in Seattle, played college ball at Boise State and was the head coach at Nevada and Stanford before coming to LSU. He had no ties to the southeast. Not only that, he had just taken Stanford to the Sweet 16. The main reason Johnson bolted for LSU is that the original athletic director who hired him was replaced in 2006 by Bob Bowlsby, and he and Johnson and Bowlsby did not get along. That may have been a good reason to leave Stanford, but it wasn't a good reason to come to LSU.

It also didn't help that Johnson was replacing John Brady, who had taken LSU to the Final Four in 2006. (It shows how badly Brady treated people that despite that incredible accomplishment, LSU fired him just two years later.) If LSU had been simply bad under Johnson that would be troubling enough, but the Tigers have gone 5-27 in the SEC the last two years, and they have already lost this season to Coastal Carolina, Northwestern and South Alabama.

The bottom line is, Johnson has not recruited well enough. Is that because he refuses to cheat? Perhaps. But the bottom line is, a coach is hired to deliver results. I'm hoping like heck that Johnson turns this thing around, but right now there's not much indication that's about to happen.



Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 8:46 am to
GFY and come back after the season. Thanks.
Posted by KingHippo
Member since May 2009
3744 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 8:50 am to
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The bottom line is, Johnson has not recruited well enough. Is that because he refuses to cheat? Perhaps. But the bottom line is, a coach is hired to deliver results. I'm hoping like heck that Johnson turns this thing around, but right now there's not much indication that's about to happen.


Has it occurred to you that LSU really isn't that attractive when it comes to Basketball. We've been historically good several times, but at the end of the day nobody is excited about basketball down here. We were lucky that Press gave his son a car to come here or that Collis had birth to a child with a slew of D-1 beasts as friends

shite, I went to the Moo State game last year and their crowd was better than ours were towards the tail end of 08 when we had a helluva team.

I've stopped defending Trent's coaching ability and don't believe he is the best fit, but our fanbase has just as much to do with the state of our program
This post was edited on 12/15/11 at 8:54 am
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10234 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 8:50 am to
quote:

The bottom line is, Johnson has not recruited well enough. Is that because he refuses to cheat? Perhaps.


So do all other SEC basketball programs cheat?

I do agree with the premise that TJ has no ties here and has taken awhile to find his "fit".
Posted by YellowShoe
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2006
1381 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 9:01 am to
Who is Seth Davis? Why does his nailing (or analysis) that important?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25863 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 9:11 am to
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It also didn't help that Johnson was replacing John Brady, who had taken LSU to the Final Four in 2006. (It shows how badly Brady treated people that despite that incredible accomplishment, LSU fired him just two years later.)


quit reading after this. point no longer valid.
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
9330 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 10:05 am to
Where did Seth Davis' comments end and yours start?

Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
9330 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 10:07 am to
If Trent Johnson has a another shitty year, he will be fired. There really isn't a lot of debate. That said, we need to let the season play out and see what happens.
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