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re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2"
Posted on 12/7/11 at 1:52 pm to CocomoLSU
Posted on 12/7/11 at 1:52 pm to CocomoLSU
Somebody correct me on my work if I'm wrong and I don't want to turn this thread into a math course, but we could use the equation that takes account for speed due to gravity.
That is v^2=u^2+2as
where v=velocity at the bottom
u=starting velocity
a=acceleration, gravity 32.2 ft/s
s=starting height
So with your numbers you get
v^2=0+2(32.2)(40)
v^2=2576
v=50.75 ft/s
that converts to 34.6 mph
Damn...
That is v^2=u^2+2as
where v=velocity at the bottom
u=starting velocity
a=acceleration, gravity 32.2 ft/s
s=starting height
So with your numbers you get
v^2=0+2(32.2)(40)
v^2=2576
v=50.75 ft/s
that converts to 34.6 mph
Damn...
Posted on 12/7/11 at 1:53 pm to CocomoLSU
I wish Mythbusters would do a "How many times would Harry and Marv died" epsiode.
Posted on 12/7/11 at 1:54 pm to Josh Fenderman
Works for me. I haven't seen physics since high school, and I wasn't crazy about it then anyway. So any attempt to try to get it exactly correct would've been hard and embarassing for me. .
Posted on 12/7/11 at 2:25 pm to CHEEEEESE
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How about Home Alone 2 when they try to grab him outside of Duncan's. There's a fricking child screaming at the top of his lungs at two men who then proceed to chase him and no one thinks to intervene. They stop for a second to see where the noise is coming from then just continue on with their day.
Actually that's the bystander effect, the likely scenario when something happens.
Posted on 12/8/11 at 9:36 am to GoldenTiger85
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Actually that's the bystander effect, the likely scenario when something happens.
I think someone would've done something. IMO the bystander effect, while a real thing, isn't the normal reactions of most people.
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:00 am to CocomoLSU
Home Alone 2 I'm not going to go into as much detail and analysis, but will do a more of making fun of it. Here's the number of times they should have died in HA2.
1) Harry should have had a shattered spine after smashing into the car
2) One brick to the head should have killed Marv, or best case put him in ICU with permanent brain damage due to internal bleeding of the brain, likely putting him in a vegetative state. And that's just one, nevertheless four, in which time his brain should have been all over the road.
3) Assuming Marv survives 4 bricks to the head and is walking around with a completely shattered skull and brain, he should have died going face first a story below, and certainly when the paint shelves knocked him down.
4) When Harry jumps to the ladder covered in slime, he lands on the back of his neck, which would almost certainly result in paralysis.
5) Marv gets electrocuted for 20 seconds, pretty much no chance of survival.
6) Harry gets a shite ton of tools dropped on him. Maybe not death, but certainly a trip to a hospital.
7) Marv gets a big of cement thrown on top of him from four stories up. Instant death, especially with an already shattered skull.
8) Harry puts his flaming head in a bowl of gasoline. No chance for survival.
9) Harry and Marv get hit in the face with a 60+ pound bar (instant death), and fly down two stories (instant death). Kevin then cuts the bar where it flies down two stories, which would land on their rib cages, making their heart and lungs explode instantly (another instant death).
10) The tool chest falling down the stairs.
11) Falling three fricking stories with the afore mentioned injuries.
This I will go into detail though.
1) Harry should have had a shattered spine after smashing into the car
2) One brick to the head should have killed Marv, or best case put him in ICU with permanent brain damage due to internal bleeding of the brain, likely putting him in a vegetative state. And that's just one, nevertheless four, in which time his brain should have been all over the road.
3) Assuming Marv survives 4 bricks to the head and is walking around with a completely shattered skull and brain, he should have died going face first a story below, and certainly when the paint shelves knocked him down.
4) When Harry jumps to the ladder covered in slime, he lands on the back of his neck, which would almost certainly result in paralysis.
5) Marv gets electrocuted for 20 seconds, pretty much no chance of survival.
6) Harry gets a shite ton of tools dropped on him. Maybe not death, but certainly a trip to a hospital.
7) Marv gets a big of cement thrown on top of him from four stories up. Instant death, especially with an already shattered skull.
8) Harry puts his flaming head in a bowl of gasoline. No chance for survival.
9) Harry and Marv get hit in the face with a 60+ pound bar (instant death), and fly down two stories (instant death). Kevin then cuts the bar where it flies down two stories, which would land on their rib cages, making their heart and lungs explode instantly (another instant death).
10) The tool chest falling down the stairs.
11) Falling three fricking stories with the afore mentioned injuries.
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Another thing I noticed was once the McAllister family gets to NYC, the mom goes to the hotel and has the fricking nerve to tell the lady at the front desk "Because of you, my son is lost and alone in NYC." Um, no, you fricking count...your son is lost because you are a horrible mother and lost him at the airport. Not to mention that this is the second time this has happened in a year. And you have the nerve to try to pass the blame onto someone else? frick you and your disrespectful bullshite.
This I will go into detail though.
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:02 am to Josh Fenderman
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Somebody correct me on my work if I'm wrong and I don't want to turn this thread into a math course, but we could use the equation that takes account for speed due to gravity.
Why shouldn't it? This is an over analysis thread, and overanalyzing often involves math. I hope you do one for the iron, since I think that would have certainly cracked Marv's skull open as well.
Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:13 am to OMLandshark
I mainly did HA2 because it happened to be on and I caught a few parts of it. I do feel like I dedicated an inordinate amount of time to overanalyzing the brick scene though. I mean, I spent way too much time watching clips and googling pics to get an accurate measurement estimation. Even took a ruler to our stairs here at work.
I also tried initially to calculate the speed of the bricks with gravity, but all I remember from high school is 9.8 m/s^2, and the equations I found were scary. So I'm glad someone came behind me and did the math better.
I also tried initially to calculate the speed of the bricks with gravity, but all I remember from high school is 9.8 m/s^2, and the equations I found were scary. So I'm glad someone came behind me and did the math better.
Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:56 am to VanRIch
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Did he ever get to eat his Mac and cheese??
This! Why didn't he at least take a few bites, he had plenty of time!!
Also, it really bugged me that the Mom (who practically gave away all her worldly possessions to the extremely greedy old people to get an earlier flight, AND had to ride with John Candy and The Kenosha Kickers on what appeared to be an insufferable road trip ) only managed to arrive 5-10 minutes before the rest of the family who traveled according to plan!! I would have been pissed if I were her!
Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:57 am to LSULady711
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Also, it really bugged me that the Mom (who practically gave away all her worldly possessions to the extremely greedy old people to get an earlier flight, AND had to ride with John Candy and The Kenosha Kickers on what appeared to be an insufferable road trip ) only managed to arrive 5-10 minutes before the rest of the family who traveled according to plan!!
Posted on 12/8/11 at 6:46 pm to LSULady711
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Also, it really bugged me that the Mom (who practically gave away all her worldly possessions to the extremely greedy old people to get an earlier flight, AND had to ride with John Candy and The Kenosha Kickers on what appeared to be an insufferable road trip ) only managed to arrive 5-10 minutes before the rest of the family who traveled according to plan!! I would have been pissed if I were her!
I doubt Mom is ridiculously bummed about losing the Jewelry since the McAlisters are ridiculously fricking loaded and she's likely got millions in jewelry back at her home.
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:03 pm to OMLandshark
Let's talk about Kevin's ability to work a remote. These are not blue rays, dvd's, or dvr's. His incredible ability to ffw stop and play exactly on cue using a VHS is incredible. I dont know how many of you have dealt with VHS's before, but its impossible to do. Hell I could barely rewind the thing all the way, let alone jump to specific scenes in an instant. Also, how loud and realistic were those TV's. I mean in HA1 the pizza kid and marv and harry are outside when they hear the tape, which granted would dissipate the sound to make it seem live, but not likely. In HA2 they are in the next room with the door open! I've never ever walked by a TV in another room and said to myself, "Thats real live people in there talking."
BTW i frickin love these movies
BTW i frickin love these movies
Posted on 12/8/11 at 7:13 pm to OMLandshark
Recent development: I just remembered the scene in HA2 when Harry and Marv are casing old man Duncan's Toy Chest. For one there are hundreds of people in there, and nobody notices to homeless looking dudes hanging out in there with a bunch of kids and their moms. Also when they get inside the little houses to hide. Why didnt they get in the same house? The house that Harry occupied was clearly big enough to house both of them. Plus it would eliminate the need to stick their heads out the damn windows to talk to each other! Oh and nobody seems to notice that they are not Christmas statues, like frickin Santa's elves or something when they pause to let people pass by. Im pretty sure I would notice those two in the middle of a winter wonderland toy store. I also find it hard to believe that old man Duncan owns what looks to be about 20,000sf of Manhattan real estate on 5th avenue, and runs the place like a mom and pop joint from Gary, Indiana. To own that joint Duncan would need to be worth a few 100mil at least. I doubt he;d be working the register too.
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:41 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Duncan's Toy Chest
I always thought it was a pretty shitty toy store. It had toys from 1901 and all the kids in there were in awe like they were something amazing. And the best thing Kevin leaves the store with is a couple of fricking slime cans and two plaster of paris turtledoves?
I went to FAO Schwartz once when I was about that age and thought it was a hell of a lot better than Duncan's shite Chest.
Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:06 pm to Josh Fenderman
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I went to FAO Schwartz once when I was about that age and thought it was a hell of a lot better than Duncan's shite Chest.
Actually, FAO Schwartz WAS Duncan's Toy Chest. And I too went to FAO Schwartz once and also realized that it kicked the shite out Duncan's Toy Chest. The LEGO section was incredible.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:10 am to OMLandshark
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Actually, FAO Schwartz WAS Duncan's Toy Chest. And I too went to FAO Schwartz once and also realized that it kicked the shite out Duncan's Toy Chest. The LEGO section was incredible.
Actually it was made up to be like FAO Schwartz... the fact is that the scenes involving the toy store were shot in chicago and not new york.
LINK
Posted on 12/9/11 at 8:32 am to OMLandshark
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Uncle Frank was the man.
Uncle Frank was a fricking dick.
When he is getting champagne on the plane. "Fill it up. fill it up. FILL IT UP!"
In one of the movies, he says something that implies Mr. McCallister is paying for the whole vacation.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 12:03 pm to Joe Joe Joe
Uncle frank is cheap and a moocher but also just a douche.
Kid needed his tie and he acts like he was trying to give him a hand job.
Kid needed his tie and he acts like he was trying to give him a hand job.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 12:23 am to The Eric
Home alone 1. Doggie door but no signs of a dog. I assume it must be boarded but I also saw they had no fence. If they in fact have a dog they must be quite trusting that it won't run waway.
Also, let's say you board the dog. Why would you not put in a sliding door over the doggie door. Defeats the point of locking the door.
Also why were the garages open in the first place? In my neighborhood which is nice but not multimillion nice we have an ordinance that says garage doors should be kept closed. What is the purpose for having them open? You aren't planning on using cars so why not just close them that night?
While Kevin was wrong for hitting buzz the way the family all attacked him was uncalled for. It's not uncle franks place to call him a jerk nor is it the kids job.
And why must they continue giving fuller sodas? He has a problem. Parents obviously don't care that he wets the bed.
Also when the van is chasing Kevin, and he gets away he says "when those guys come back, I will be ready". How did he know they were gonna come back? And how did he know that night?
Also, let's say you board the dog. Why would you not put in a sliding door over the doggie door. Defeats the point of locking the door.
Also why were the garages open in the first place? In my neighborhood which is nice but not multimillion nice we have an ordinance that says garage doors should be kept closed. What is the purpose for having them open? You aren't planning on using cars so why not just close them that night?
While Kevin was wrong for hitting buzz the way the family all attacked him was uncalled for. It's not uncle franks place to call him a jerk nor is it the kids job.
And why must they continue giving fuller sodas? He has a problem. Parents obviously don't care that he wets the bed.
Also when the van is chasing Kevin, and he gets away he says "when those guys come back, I will be ready". How did he know they were gonna come back? And how did he know that night?
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