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IMO, this is how the situation is going to play out, Lawyers input welcome

Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:42 am
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:42 am
If one of our football players catches the felony charge, there is no doubt in my mind they will plead down to a misdeameanor. This is why the interview was pushed back from monday until tomorrow. The lawyer, Fisher, undoubtely told the detective he was not bringing the boys in until a deal was inplace(charges, bail set, bomd already set up, etc), thus why the meeting was initially postponed indef. The DA knows he does not have a solid case(he said, she said involving drunk witnesses and friends) plus a youthful defendor who would more than likely only receive probation and get their records esponged upon completion. Depends on how backed up the court system is in BR will determine when the plea agreement becomes official.

As far as the team goes, Who knows, but Miles will probably run these guys into the ground instead of suspensions, or suspend them once the court case is finalized.
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
3018 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:43 am to
You may be right on your first paragraph but as a player, I think JJ is done.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:44 am to
What about Jefferson lying to everyone?

You don't think that will play a part in this?
Posted by NicoBlues
I eat frogs
Member since Dec 2009
15048 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:44 am to
Did you see what I wrote in the big thread last night 7th?
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:46 am to
I think everyone ends up with simple battery. Any suspensions will be served during NWSt
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:55 am to
JJ suspended for first 2 games
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12504 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:59 am to
I think we should not discount the likelihood that none of the players face criminal consequences because none of the players were actually involved in a crime. The amount of credibility accorded to police reports by the general public continues to astound me. You have a huge crowd of pissed off, drunk and confused teenagers/20-somethings, all yelling and trying to tell "their story", and a few cops trying to write down everyone's version at once while their priorities are:

1) protect any victims who might be injured,
2) protect the crowd from each other,
3) protect themselves,
4) disperse the crowd without further violence, and finally

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.
.

5) investigate what actually occurred

The investigation is a distant last place on their priority list on the scene. They have so many and so much more important things to worry about, there is essentially zero effort put into vetting, verifying or even questioning any particular "witnesses" account. They're just writing down what everyone says at the moment, with hardly any regard to the credibility of the source.

I have personally witnessed a police report on a fight recording that four witnesses identified a guy as the culprit, when that guy was in fact sitting in a bar (next to me) two blocks away when the fight happened and all four witnesses (as they confirmed again in court) attempted to explain to the officer that they were identifying was an entirely different guy in "a green shirt and white hat." But the cop had looked up, seen a guy in a green shirt and white hat, and was not interested in listening to anything else.

We don't know jack at this point. None of us, not even the people who were there (much less the dozens of posters who will surely claim to have "been there"). It is sad (though in our society -- and among the lowlifes frequenting this board especially -- inevitable) how quickly and with such certainty we condemn the accused, when we are already conditioned to assume they are guilty.

As far as predicting how it plays out, that's sheer folly unless you are Nathan Fisher or the DA. No one else has nearly enough information about the case to make even a vague estimation. Lots of people thought Ray Lewis was going to jail forever and that Plaxico would be back on the field as quickly as his leg could heal. None of us really knows anything (and probably never will really know).

Posted by Coach Diego
Sulphur, La.
Member since Dec 2007
937 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:02 am to
The players should not had been out at that time of night. the team captains that were envolved were just plain stupid. They should have shown leadership. As a coach I would run them through the mill.
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:10 am to
quote:

esponged


Best ever mangling of a word without really altering the meaning.
Posted by Nick Cest Bon
Covington
Member since Jan 2004
388 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:34 am to
I have read hundreds of police reports. There are so many mistakes in initial reports and often downright lies that it is very difficult to believe anything you read. If there are several statements from witnesses that are consistent, however, this could be the end of the Jeffersonian era at LSU. Politically, I've always been Jeffersonian; as an LSU fan, not so much.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32455 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 8:39 am to
A felony charge will not stick for all the reasons you stated above, it's not really the legal thing that we should be asking questions about, it's this:

- Will JJ be suspended for a game, game(s), or the full season?
-Will any of the other players face suspension or just run laps?
- Who will the QB be if JJ gets canned?
-Can we win against Oregon with Jarret Lee (NO), or Mett? (maybe)
-How will this affect the team morale? Will they implode from within or get stronger?
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