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re: Listen, Saintards, Mark Ingram is not that valuable
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:10 pm to MadMaxwell
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:10 pm to MadMaxwell
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Make up your mind.
it's an either or
1. spending 1st round picks on RB
2. spending a lot of money on RB
1
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
We got Ingram and Jordan!
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:20 pm to ipodking
HAHAHA!!!! OP is a douche bag of legendary proportion!
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
SFP is the same TD.com retard that was all over Jamarcus Russell saying he would be a good NFL QB.
Who Dat Who Dat
Ingram will be soild in the run game for the Saints
Who Dat Who Dat
Ingram will be soild in the run game for the Saints
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Saints coulda gotten Ridley without giving up a thing.
I hope Ingram is that good and does this mean the end of Bush as a Saint?
I hope Ingram is that good and does this mean the end of Bush as a Saint?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:36 pm to HeadCoach
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HAHAHA!!!! OP is a douche bag of legendary proportion!
I'm glad the saints got Ingram, but the OP is right. There are plenty of running back in this draft and there will be plenty of running backs in future drafts.
Guess who is on the cover of NFL '12? Peyton -fricking- Hillis. He had 1100 yards last year and he probably wasn't taken anywhere near the 1st round. Pierre Thomas did it for the Saints in '09 and Chris Ivory did pretty well last year when he got playing time. Neither of them were 1st round picks.
The Saints lost to a 7-9 team in the playoffs because their D got torn to shreds. Taking a defensive player in the draft ahead of a RB was a smart move. I'm glad the Saints got Ingram and I think he will do very well and help balance the offense so Brees doesn't have to do so much. I'm not sure he was worth the trades they had to pull to get him though. Time will tell.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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RB has almost no value in the NFL right now
You don't know shite.
The Saints had DeShawn effing Wynn in there with Julius Jones at the end of it this year.
Year before? They had two decent tailbacks for 1st & 2nd down, and won a SuperBowl.
Teams have to have MULTIPLE tailbacks and they don't last as long. You have to CONSTANTLY prospect for 'em.
The tailback situation was the key to the Saints getting blitzed 49 times in Atlanta. We simply couldn't run the ball. We won, but Brees got his arse lit up continually.
Without tailbacks, you see Brees' eyes go into Silver Dollar mode all night.
Get a clue. Oh, I know, you're some popular poster here. WGAF. Weak take, brochacho.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:41 pm to GeauxWarTigers
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The Saints lost to a 7-9 team in the playoffs because our offense couldn't run the ball in the 2nd half and play clock to shrink the back end of the game, which was our ENTIRE offensive gameplan in 2009 when we won it all.
FIFY
We jumped all over people's asses with fast starts, and then ran you to DEATH, especially in the 2nd half, and picked favorable mismatches on offense based on situations in the 2nd half.
Not having a running game had everything lean on Brees.
This post was edited on 4/28/11 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:42 pm to GFunk
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The Saints had DeShawn effing Wynn in there with Julius Jones at the end of it this year.
because they made bad choices and had bad luck in 2010 doesn't mean RB has little value in teh NFL
if we had signed thomas jones, we'd have been fine
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Teams have to have MULTIPLE tailbacks and they don't last as long.
which is exactly why you don't invest a lot in any 1 RB
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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which is exactly why you don't invest a lot in any 1 RB
24th pick in 2010 - Dez Bryant, WR, OSU.
5 years, 11.8 million dollars
24th pick in 2009 - Peria Jerry, DL, Ole Myth.
5 years, 10.35 million dollars
Pierre Thomas - RB, Saints
4 years, 12 million
So, the previous 2 24th picks in the draft signed for THIRTY THREE PERCENT LESS than Thomas makes right now, but we're investing too fricking much?
Get a fricking clue. Dipshit.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:50 pm to GFunk
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The Saints lost to a 7-9 team in the playoffs because our offense couldn't run the ball in the 2nd half and play clock to shrink the back end of the game, which was our ENTIRE offensive gameplan in 2009 when we won it all.
Tell that to the 51 yards rushing the Saints had in the Superbowl.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Slow, did you really say jamarcus would be a great QB?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:52 pm to GeauxWarTigers
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Tell that to the 51 yards rushing the Saints had in the Superbowl.
we also had 93 yards and a TD out of the backfield. It also takes the pass rush off of us
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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which is exactly why you don't invest a lot in any 1 RB
Tiki Barber at 36 is cheap.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:53 pm to GeauxWarTigers
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Tell that to the 51 yards rushing the Saints had in the Superbowl.
So, tell me more about how the Saints played from ahead in the 2nd half of the Super Bowl?
Oh, wait...You mean we had to throw our way back in it? You mean, we had to throw our modus operandi out of the window in order to come back and not only tie, but take the lead?
Thanks for playing the, "I didn't really think this through, but I'm way too attached to my opinion and my own interest in it to admit I don't know what I'm talking about." We've got some nice parting gifts for you.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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almost nothing separates a guy like ingram from a guy like ridley
Noted for future reference.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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almost nothing separates a guy like ingram from a guy like ridley
lolwut
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:57 pm to GeauxWarTigers
I like the Ingram pick. IDGAF what anyone else thinks about it, I like what the Saints did in round 1. We got great value for great guys, period.
I'm not going to claim he's taking us to the superbowl, but he's going to be a stud and we got him at a great value. The only thing I can't figure out is who is going to be our RB lineup. PT, Ingram has to be those two. Is SP planning a 4 rb active roster? I can't see Reggie being cut unless he will not accept low enough pay, then I guess it'd be PT, Ingram, and Ivory.. but none of them have great breakaway speed.
Ivory - 4.47
PT - 4.65
Ingram - 4.58
The fastest is Ivory and he's proven that he can break away but he's not a burner. Who would be our 3DRB? Ivory can't catch, not him. Would PT or Ingram be our primary back? PT is proven but fragile, Ingram is unproven but has great promise..
Gaah I DON'T KNOW!
I'm not going to claim he's taking us to the superbowl, but he's going to be a stud and we got him at a great value. The only thing I can't figure out is who is going to be our RB lineup. PT, Ingram has to be those two. Is SP planning a 4 rb active roster? I can't see Reggie being cut unless he will not accept low enough pay, then I guess it'd be PT, Ingram, and Ivory.. but none of them have great breakaway speed.
Ivory - 4.47
PT - 4.65
Ingram - 4.58
The fastest is Ivory and he's proven that he can break away but he's not a burner. Who would be our 3DRB? Ivory can't catch, not him. Would PT or Ingram be our primary back? PT is proven but fragile, Ingram is unproven but has great promise..
Gaah I DON'T KNOW!
This post was edited on 4/28/11 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 4/28/11 at 10:58 pm to GFunk
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24th pick in 2010 - Dez Bryant, WR, OSU.
5 years, 11.8 million dollars
24th pick in 2009 - Peria Jerry, DL, Ole Myth.
5 years, 10.35 million dollars
Pierre Thomas - RB, Saints
4 years, 12 million
So, the previous 2 24th picks in the draft signed for THIRTY THREE PERCENT LESS than Thomas makes right now, but we're investing too fricking much?
Get a fricking clue. Dipshit.
I second that!
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:00 pm to Cosmo
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Slow, did you really say jamarcus would be a great QB?
he was one of the best QB prospects ever. great college career, smart, accurate QB with top 5 all time physical tools
but, he's a lazy frick
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