re: Dandy Don says La'El Collins to redshirt

Your redshirt year serves as the primary backup for a season ending injury. If you use that voluntarily, you kind of lose that backup plan. They generally don't grant an extension unless you miss 2 or more years due to injury or something else.

The rule you posted is for someone to get a medical redshirt which is when someone gets injured early in the season etc. They will not lose the whole year due to an early injury. But you cannot get a medical redshirt if you have already taken a redshirt ie Blackwell

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Yes he can....done all the time...all the sudden he gets an ankle injury and they have to "medically" redshirt him...I think you can do that up to the 2nd game..

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Let's get a couple things straight.

Technically, "redshirt" is a slang term. It doesn't exist in any NCAA rulebook. Before you flame on this, look it up.

A player on a NCAA team has 4 seasons of eligibility which must be used within 5 consecutive years or 10 consecutive semesters. People often refer to this as "5 years to play 4"

Once you enter the playing field (court, etc.) you automatically use one year of eligibility. It's not one play, not one second, it's entering the game in an NCAA contest. So, when a coach doesn't put a player in for a whole year, they haven't used their eligibility yet, oftentimes as a freshman, so this means they have 4 seasons left and 4 years on the clock to do it (or 8 semesters).

As far as "medical redshirts" (again doesn't exist, it's a slang term). A school can petition the NCAA to restore a year of eligibility or grant an extra year of eligibility to a player, decided on a case-by-case basis. Typically these are only granted in serious situations such as season-ending injuries.

Thus, common myths debunked:
1. A player does not "declare" a redshirt or anything of the sort. They simply don't play and don't use up eligibility
2. A Coach/AD/School does not "medically redshirt" people - only the NCAA can restore or grant extended eligibility.
3. There is no "grace period" for "redshirting", the first time you enter the game, you deduct a year of eligibility.

Hope this helps everyone's understanding


EDIT: See Suntiger's above post for further explanation of "Medical Redshirting"

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What you are missing is the 5 year rule. To get a 6th year you have to apply for a waiver to this rule. The rules that you copy only apply to those who did not redshirt.

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This was the only rule I could find about getting a medical hardship waiver to receive an extra year of eligibility. Can you post the rule for someone who has already redshirted?


Not saying y'all are wrong, and I agree that the granting of a sixth year is very rare, but I just didn't see a rule about being injured two different years.

DD is getting hit alot today. I think he said what he believed. Of the 4 returning Olineman I don't see an all SEC player. Maybe one will improve and end up second string all SEC. Collins needs to add weight and improve his blocking. I wouldn't red shirt him because as a 5 star recruit he may not be here more than 3-4 years.

no he didnt say that.

I read his website.

He said, in his opinion, Collins needs to put on weight, and ought to redshirt.

Collins to redshirt is definitive. NO one knows yet until he practices.

I'd say it's about 50-50 whether he redshirts. Not many freshmen play on the OL. Very few start. He is human. Just cuz he came to LSU doesn't make him the best ever. High School is a lot different than the SEC.

We don't have any All SEC linemen either. Name one. Maybe 2nd or 3rd team potential but none that deserve it yet.

OK lets all hate on DD... somebody (other than I) needs to bookmark this thread and bump it back to the top when DD turns out to be right.

If DD is wrong about Collins so what? It isn't assinine or insane to predict a true freshman will not start on the line. The line is one of the spots that is the hardest for a freshman to get the nod on as a freshman.

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Can you post the rule for someone who has already redshirted?

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I don't know if you've found it or not, but if you're still interested the Five-year rule is discussed in article 14.2.

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Dandy Don

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Lost all credibility once the above was stated. No sources, just blabber from this tool. And horrific opinions that often are edited once real information outlets report.

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A little too early to be saying that. For all DD knows, Collins will come in and blow everyone up. He has no way of knowing of Collins is mentally and physically ready yet, unless his injury was worse than expected.

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What was his injury?