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re: Shooting Dogs
Posted on 12/21/10 at 3:55 pm to Bama and Beer
Posted on 12/21/10 at 3:55 pm to Bama and Beer
I've never shot a dog in the woods, but I think if (even collared) it continously trespassed and harrassed my deer it would be taken out, and I dont mean to Burger King. This is all on the stipulation of repeated offenses. Once or twice, I would let it slide. I once had a dachsund that thought he was a grayhound and would disappear for a day or two every now and then. I'd be mad if something had happened to him, but the fault would be partly mine for not controlling him better.
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Posted on 12/21/10 at 3:56 pm to Bama and Beer
we have rural garbage dumpster by my camp. people drop dogs off all the time. if they make it to adulthood its a miracle. then they really get wild. i have shot 3 dogs in 5 years. i have a dog at home so this is never fun. I will say the first one i put out of its misery. the last two ran deer out of my food plot 2 weekends in a roll. then they died. i don't shoot pets.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 4:31 pm to VanRIch
I could never bring myself to shoot a dog unless it attacked me or a family member but if these are wild dogs then I may be able to pump a round in 'em.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 4:40 pm to Bleeding purple
Shooting another persons hunting dog in MS is a $500 fine for the alleged shooter.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 4:45 pm to Geauxtiga
This is a very touchy subject and watch what you say or do when it comes to shooting dogs. You better know with out a doubt it does not belong to anyone and never tell anyone you shot it. The owner or some animal rights group could nail your arse to the wall. It don't matter that it was on your land much less lease land.
There was a case 10 yrs or so where a guys shot a guys dogs on his own property and had to pay big time for it. It's also a felony to abuse animals which is what you would get accused of if you got caught killing someones dog.
Now if I ever found out you shot my dog I would beat your arse! My dog was shot about a month ago with a .22mag she lived and is doing fine but there is no way I can prove who shot her. I am pretty sure I know who it was and if I ever catch him away from his house I am gonna stomp a mudhole in his arse.
There was a case 10 yrs or so where a guys shot a guys dogs on his own property and had to pay big time for it. It's also a felony to abuse animals which is what you would get accused of if you got caught killing someones dog.
Now if I ever found out you shot my dog I would beat your arse! My dog was shot about a month ago with a .22mag she lived and is doing fine but there is no way I can prove who shot her. I am pretty sure I know who it was and if I ever catch him away from his house I am gonna stomp a mudhole in his arse.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 4:48 pm to offshoretrash
quote:Some animal rights group tried to get a friend of mine to prosecute a guy in Ferriday for shooting..........
It's also a felony to abuse animals which is what you would get accused of if you got caught killing someones dog.
his own dog.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 4:51 pm to hawkeye007
quote:I think I would have to lay the hammer down too.
the last two ran deer out of my food plot 2 weekends in a roW
Posted on 12/21/10 at 4:52 pm to Bama and Beer
I'm pretty sure the dogs around our place have learned not to come back on it...
Posted on 12/21/10 at 5:08 pm to Bama and Beer
I don't shoot dogs.
The only exception I could imagine is if it were showing aggression to me or my family.
If I saw a dog on my land, I would have a problem with an owner. If it was a stray and starving, I would probably try to catch it or at least give it some food . . . but that's how I am.
The land we own is around my grandparents house in the middle of nowhere (no houses within miles). When my grandmother was alive, every stray cat or dog that was able to make it to her house got fed and got to stay there until it moved on or died. So, I will feed any stray that comes through. I feel like that's something I owe to her memory. That's also how my parents ended up owning a 120lb Dane/lab mix (great couch potato dog, but when he was younger he would catch and kill deer) and a cat. And thats how the wife and I own a black lab mix that showed up at my grandparents house so starved as a puppy that she didn't have any hair. Now she is fat and happy and continually irritates me because she won't let anything stay on the faucets outside. So, no, I'm not going to just shoot a dog.
Another story: When I was young and just starting to hunt by myself, I had two little dogs, about ten pounds each, run a big doe by me one morning. They looked like Jack Russells or Rat Terriers, the memory is faded now. I heard them run the deer for a while and then start heading back my way. I shot at the doe as she crossed the shooting lane and she kept running. By the time I climbed out of my stand and started looking for blood, the dogs showed up. We (the dogs and I) picked up the blood trail and found her about 30 yards away in a thicket. The dogs did a little "Yah!!! We killed a deer!" dance that only little dogs can do and then took back off through the woods never to be heard from again. We asked around and no one knew who owned the dogs or had ever seen two little dogs like that out in the woods. So, seeing a dog in the woods doesn't bother me that much.
The only exception I could imagine is if it were showing aggression to me or my family.
If I saw a dog on my land, I would have a problem with an owner. If it was a stray and starving, I would probably try to catch it or at least give it some food . . . but that's how I am.
The land we own is around my grandparents house in the middle of nowhere (no houses within miles). When my grandmother was alive, every stray cat or dog that was able to make it to her house got fed and got to stay there until it moved on or died. So, I will feed any stray that comes through. I feel like that's something I owe to her memory. That's also how my parents ended up owning a 120lb Dane/lab mix (great couch potato dog, but when he was younger he would catch and kill deer) and a cat. And thats how the wife and I own a black lab mix that showed up at my grandparents house so starved as a puppy that she didn't have any hair. Now she is fat and happy and continually irritates me because she won't let anything stay on the faucets outside. So, no, I'm not going to just shoot a dog.
Another story: When I was young and just starting to hunt by myself, I had two little dogs, about ten pounds each, run a big doe by me one morning. They looked like Jack Russells or Rat Terriers, the memory is faded now. I heard them run the deer for a while and then start heading back my way. I shot at the doe as she crossed the shooting lane and she kept running. By the time I climbed out of my stand and started looking for blood, the dogs showed up. We (the dogs and I) picked up the blood trail and found her about 30 yards away in a thicket. The dogs did a little "Yah!!! We killed a deer!" dance that only little dogs can do and then took back off through the woods never to be heard from again. We asked around and no one knew who owned the dogs or had ever seen two little dogs like that out in the woods. So, seeing a dog in the woods doesn't bother me that much.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 5:49 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
shouldn't let your pet trespass on hunting hunter's properties especially during this time.
I'm more concerned about the assholes who trespass on my property and killing my dogs. Every year I find more-and-more unauthorized deer stands/food plots on my land. I could see one of these asshats killing my dogs.
This post was edited on 12/21/10 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 12/21/10 at 5:50 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
there's a number of things you can feed dogs that could take care of issue.
There's a special place in hell for cocksuckers who poison animals other than rats and mice.
This post was edited on 12/21/10 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 12/21/10 at 5:53 pm to VanRIch
I've shot two hunting dogs on our property, both the same year. Both in the middle of our 2000 acres of hunting land. Yeah, the dogs don't know property lines, but the owners do. Do a better job of keeping your dogs off of land that I pay money to hunt or reimburse me my hunting lease fees. One was starving and bleeding from it's paws it had been run so much and the other was scavenging around our campers. Buried the collars and all. Was about 14 yrs ago and never had a problem again.
eta - I should clarify.. the people running the dogs left evidence they were pushing deer off our property towards theirs with the dogs the previous year. And the one that had bloody paws, you could also tell the thing hadn't eaten in about a week, it was nothing but ribs and couldn't get near it without it going cujo. Don't think it was rabid, but it was too weak to attack.
eta - I should clarify.. the people running the dogs left evidence they were pushing deer off our property towards theirs with the dogs the previous year. And the one that had bloody paws, you could also tell the thing hadn't eaten in about a week, it was nothing but ribs and couldn't get near it without it going cujo. Don't think it was rabid, but it was too weak to attack.
This post was edited on 12/21/10 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 12/21/10 at 6:03 pm to Alahunter
quote:
Buried the collars
This is not good.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 6:05 pm to Choirboy
I added an edit. We know the owners were running our deer and wasn't about to get our campers burned or clubhouse burned over their damn dogs.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 6:10 pm to Alahunter
Alot of guys that run dogs on hogs out here see them as only a tool. We went on a dog/knife hog hunt last year and one of the curs kept hanging around the owner. The dog literally wouldnt hunt. At the end of the hunt we are all getting bak into our trucks and were surprised to hear a gunshot from the ditch. The owners response "Damn dog that wont hunt is just a waste of dog food" "The bitches will have another 20 pups this year anyway."
Im not saying that every dog owner would act this way but so far the dogs that ended up on our property are hog dogs.
Im not saying that every dog owner would act this way but so far the dogs that ended up on our property are hog dogs.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 6:17 pm to Bleeding purple
We didn't have hogs where we hunted, just deer. And we were a stalk only club. I know there are good and responsible dog hunters, but every club I've ever been in, or bordered, that ran dogs was crap. They either cut off deer on drives or ran them on property lines to push other deer out. I loathe running dogs for deer with a passion because of the experiences, and if any ever end up in the middle of 2K acres, they'll never make it out, if I can help it. Having said that, fortunately that club lost it's lease and there are no clubs bordering our land anymore. As far as pets, there's been several run under my stands and they can keep on keeping on. I've never shot someone's pet that is just out chasing squirrels or whatever else it's sniffing. There's a difference between dogs meant to chase my deer out and little Jimmy's lab just out and about.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 6:19 pm to Bleeding purple
quote:
Im not saying that every dog owner would act this way but so far the dogs that ended up on our property are hog dogs.
Met one person that trashy in my life and he was basically excommunicated from the dog community up here. Good riddance.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 6:21 pm to Alahunter
If you had recurrent hunts interrupted by little Jimmy's lab despite asking little Jimmy to not let his lab out an about would you feel the same? At what point does little Jimmy's lab become a pest?
Posted on 12/21/10 at 6:24 pm to Bleeding purple
The house pets rarely chased the deer. Might aggravated my hunt up, but they continued to run through chasing or playing whatever they were doing. Deer don't get up and get ran by them like a trained deer dog. I never had enough of a problem that I had to find who the dogs belonged to in that situation, so I can't honestly answer that question.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 6:25 pm to Bleeding purple
quote:
If you had recurrent hunts interrupted by little Jimmy's lab despite asking little Jimmy to not let his lab out an about would you feel the same? At what point does little Jimmy's lab become a pest?
As an adult, I realize that other people's rights may overlap mine too, and deal with it accordingly. I wouldn't kill Jimmy's lab. I would most likely pen him up.
A super minority of the population feel the way you do.
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