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re: Are we incapable of admitting that process matters?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 7:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 11/28/10 at 7:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
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1 year lulls really. And Bama had a decent year. FL was breaking in a new QB, which always gives you a pass
Should that not give Les a pass for 2008 (you keep referring to the last 3 years)? And really 2009, we had 1 bonehead loss to OM. other than that we lost to Bama and Fla, the 2 best teams in the country. Maybe the last 2 years was a lull for us? This year we have 2 loses to the #2 and #8 teams on the road.
you left out a key part of his argument, particularly:
"FL was breaking in a new QB, which always gives you a pass."
we were effectively breaking in a 3rd string qb in 2008. shouldn't that give les a pass?
also tough to argue we weren't breaking in a new (19 year old) qb in 2009, "which always gives you a pass."
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:41 pm to Lester Earl
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SEC record the last 3 years is
Don't you know, cherry picking is the 1st sign of a bankrupt argument.
10-2, 6-2, and BCS player till the end of the season....if that bothers you...tough.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:46 pm to Tiger JJ
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JerseyTiger
Are we incapable of admitting that process matters?
What if LSU went 13-0, but needed a last second dumbass miracle on every single game - including ULM and the like? Sure, you'd be happy with the MNC, but would you really argue that the coach was good?
No. Process does matter.
I'd rather have AL's record and a coach like Saban (notice I said a coach like Saban) than LSU's record and Les.
Anyone except your typically delusional posi-Miles would say the same thing. Why? Because an objective observer would point to at least two games that LSU really should have lost, UNC & TN. Those teams which were much inferior to LSU. There is no repeatability to Les' outcomes.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:51 pm to Tiger JJ
Better question: Are so called positigers capable of critical analysis?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:55 pm to carrell
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No. Process does matter.
Process matters over results? You must be a bureaucrat.
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Why? Because an objective observer would point to at least two games that LSU really should have lost, UNC & TN.
Should have? But didn't? My my my.
Now tell me about the games LSU should have won but didn't?
Late to this party dude. It's all been said before. Put on your picklehaub and go home.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:57 pm to coolpapaboze
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I think process absolutely matters to anyone interested in consistent, long-term results. People here focus too much on short term outcomes. Winning ten games this year and thus extending Miles' tenure will likely be bad for LSU in the long run.
THIS!
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:03 pm to TheBob
quote:Classic "ends justifies the means" blinders-mindset that is epidemic in our culture today. It is no wonder the world is in such a mess.
...unfortunately as a whole, our fanbase does not concern itself with any kind of process.
They are happy with results regardless of how fortunate we have been.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:04 pm to ForeLSU
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his point is that he is intellectually superior to everyone that thinks Miles is a decent coach...
Based on your own statement, you are satisfied with a decent coach (your defination of Les Miles) yet paying Les Miles the salary of a elite coach. We could get a decent coach for far less then $3.75M annually.
If our goal is to have a decent team each year, then Les Miles is our guy.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:05 pm to JawjaTigah
quote:
Classic "ends justifies the means" blinders-mindset that is epidemic in our culture today. It is no wonder the world is in such a mess.
Please feel free to educate me so that I may become a valued member of society.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:11 pm to TheBob
quote:Hey, I'm agreeing with your post. You said nobody cares about process. "Ends justifies the means" says the same thing. Long as we win, who cares how it happens. Sorry if this zipped by, wasn't intended to exclude. But then as I re-read your post, maybe the shoe fits?
Please feel free to educate me so that I may become a valued member of society.
This post was edited on 11/28/10 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:13 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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and BCS player till the end of the season.
what an accomplishment
glad to know we strive to be 3rd in our division every year and almost make a BCS bowl game
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:17 pm to JawjaTigah
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Hey, I'm agreeing with your post.
Boob didn't realize that you are agreeing with him. Now THAT'S a mental giant.
Thanks Jawja that made my day.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:19 pm to Uncommon Cents
quote:Hi-5
Thanks Jawja that made my day.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:20 pm to JawjaTigah
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JawjaTigah
Hey my fault.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:22 pm to Tiger JJ
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What if LSU went 13-0, but needed a last second dumbass miracle on every single game - including ULM and the like? Sure, you'd be happy with the MNC, but would you really argue that the coach was good?
you would argue a 13-0 n.c. is bad? geeze. a coach had something to do with the wins. he had to get the players. he had to get the players to execute a plan to win the fing game. Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:22 pm to TheBob
quote:No blame.
Hey my fault.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:26 pm to JawjaTigah
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Hi-5
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:26 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Boob didn't realize that you are agreeing with him. Now THAT'S a mental giant.
I misread. shite happens.
You'll be fricking dumb forever though. One only needs to read this thread to determine that.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:55 pm to Lester Earl
Lester, people just don't get that we'll never win another SEC title with Les. Too many great coaches in the league that week in and week out have better prepared their program to win. Miles may win a few games, but never enough.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:59 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Lester, people just don't get that we'll never win another SEC title with Les.
wanna bet?
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Too many great coaches in the league that week in and week out have better prepared their program to win.
And Miles has beaten every one of them.
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