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re: Miles should be given absolute credit for developing

Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:18 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:18 am to
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Ridley is averaging nearly 6 yards/carry.

and what is his total output?

i love efficiency, but you say "ridley is really efficient" and i'll ask, "why isn't he used more?"

again, it's a mess
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:18 am to
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everyone knew RP was a piece of crap.


this is complete bullshite. I can only imagine what it would've been like on here had Miles not even gone after the #1 player in the country in his own backyard. They would've burned Miles' house down.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:19 am to
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That went out the window after 07 season

one fake field goal and going for it on 4th down when you had against UF to isn't gambling
Posted by geauxjo
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:19 am to
"The sheer futility of it all is that LSU has the talent on offense to change its own destiny; it is not that we have no QB, it is that we are not taking the risks to optimize what we've got."

You may be right. I'm still not convinced we have the qb talent. Miles obviously isn't either. A risk may be required. Saban did that 01. He lost 3 games then turned Rohan loose. We never lost again and won the SEC because Bama was on probation.
Posted by Broham
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:21 am to
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geauxjo

If you think Miles developed that defense, you have mental problems.
Posted by 1p56
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:22 am to
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he has mde some major mistakes and lsu has paid the price


Paid as in a bcsnc, top 5 recruiting classes galore and a top10 ranking?
Posted by otowntiger
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:23 am to
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If I'm honest with myself I have to admit the direction of the team is positive and if he gets blame for the problems he must get credit for the positives.
That is an excellent point and something we all need to be reminded of. Saban certainly can't get the credit for this defense and the talent that we have now.
Posted by SAT
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:23 am to
Well he was in charge of getting the defensive talent here.

(How do you quote the person you are replying to?)
This post was edited on 9/29/10 at 8:24 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:24 am to
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this is complete bullshite.

no RP was a piece. his first interview after signing was his famous "i'm the best QB at LSU" interview

quote:

I can only imagine what it would've been like on here had Miles not even gone after the #1 player in the country in his own backyard.

i didn't say miles fricked up by recruiting RP, but he fricked up in not having a backup plan while he was here

just like we have no backup plan at the moment, b/c we only have 2 QBs
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:26 am to
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'm still not convinced we have the qb talent.

JJ was good (not great) last year as a true sophomore

if we had just kept him on that level, our offense would be pretty good this year with an ok OL and running game

but the coaches keep tinkering with the offense and trying to run an offense that requires a mobile QB when we have none. plus it's obvious that jlee in 2008 got in the coaches heads as well as JJs and we're too safe

you can't be "safe" with a wide open offense. disaster results
Posted by geauxjo
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:28 am to
"he's a conservative coach, and has been since he came to LSU"

I think he takes risks based on confidence in his personnel.
Posted by Broham
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:32 am to
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(How do you quote the person you are replying to?)

Copy and paste it in the message, highlight it and hit the quote button to the right.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:32 am to
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I think he takes risks based on confidence in his personnel.

the biggest risk he ever took was goin for the TD on 4th against UF. it was a big risk, but we were kicking a FG from the hash up close (which is hard in CFB) with a FG kicker who wasn't solidified, had we kicked to tie

plus UF's offense was pretty beastmode that night and all they'd need is a FG with enough time to get it

the next biggest risk was the AU pass in 2007, but from all accounts that was all crowton

miles HAD to go for those 4th downs against UF (before the one on the goaline). we were down and running out of time
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:32 am to
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Miles has brought some coaches WHO FIXED the D. After his incompetency had destroyed it.


dumb, who hired the chief and recruited the players for chief to work with?
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:33 am to
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why are we so venomous and angry at a man [Les Miles]


Answer: Gary Crowton.
Posted by jcb236
Cut Off, LA
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:34 am to
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(How do you quote the person you are replying to?)


Copy what you want. Paste in the response. Highlight it in the response, and the hit the quote thing to your right with all the emoticons. Preview it to see what damage you did
Posted by SAT
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:37 am to
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Copy what you want. Paste in the response. Highlight it in the response, and the hit the quote thing to your right with all the emoticons. Preview it to see what damage you did


Got it thanks.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:37 am to
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If you think Miles developed that defense, you have mental problems.


Right. I can't believe people are actually saying this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:38 am to
i give miles credit for realizing he made a HORRIBLE mistake and dealing with it quickly

he still made a huge mistake, but he did take steps to fix it

but our offense was so-so in 2008, horrible in 2009, and miles did nothing to correct that mistake. now we're feeling the effects of that really badly in 2010. it is what it is

i mean i can excuse miles a bit on the defensive front. he's an offensive coach who got emotional with mallory and i'm guessing mallory put on a great sales job. plus les didn't want to have to fire his buds doug and brad (had he hired another DC, this likely would have happened). i get it. he made a horrible mistake, and fixed it

but he should understand offense, and we're in no man's land right now. and it just feels like there isn't a light at the end of the tunnel (no QBs of the future to look towards, more tinkering with the offense, regression of JJ, etc)
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 8:42 am to
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no RP was a piece. his first interview after signing was his famous "i'm the best QB at LSU" interview


Being arrogant or cocky does not equal being a piece of shite.

quote:

just like we have no backup plan at the moment, b/c we only have 2 QBs


The attrition at QB and o-line has hurt...i'll give you that.
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