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re: An Open Letter to Les Miles

Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:53 am to
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31160 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:53 am to
This letter summarizes about 85% of how I feel.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18517 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

But you do owe Drake Nevis. You do owe Kelvin Sheppard. You owe Pep and Jai. You owe Barksdale. You owe Patrick Peterson. All of these guys are about to suit up as LSU Tigers for 8 more regular season games. And then it is gone. Some won't play real football ever again. Some will go pro but they'll never play in Tiger Stadium again. These guys have put in the work. They fight and bleed for you and their teammates.


This is something that I relate to the most. When something is paid for in blood, it's expected to be paid back with success.
Posted by Pistol...2K4
25 foot assassin
Member since Jun 2004
6918 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:15 pm to
Now that is the way to complain!
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53418 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

I read the entire thing. Nice work. Can't really quibble with anything you said.


This
Posted by Old Smokey
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
3588 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Walter Cronkite was a dumbarse/liar about Vietnam.


Fixed it and 1+


Why do you believe that about Cronkite?
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
4225 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

quote:
10-22 75 yds 2 ints.
Can Lee really be worse?


He sure was when his interceptions kept getting returned for TD's. How soon people forget.


Lee never had a game as bad as that. No Div-1 QB that I can remember has ever had a 3 game stretch as bad as JJ has this year. Also, JJ's 2nd int would have been a pick six if the db didn't trip over his own feet! But I guess that pass was somehow better than the pick 6's that JL threw because the guy tripped on his own feet at the 5 yd line. How soon YOU forget! Other than the Ole Miss game in 08 when he got hurt and JJ had to come in, I don't think JL ever started a game that he didn't throw a TD pass (to LSU). Certainly not 3 games in a row without a TD. At this point he can't be any worse! JJ needs to sit for at least a half because he's in a downward spiral and it will probably help him to watch and observe and if nothing else take all the pressure off him so he can clear his head. If JL is by some statistical miracle actually worse than JJ has been you can always put JJ back in. Again, the passing game CAN'T get any worse.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12022 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:39 pm to
Sir, your essay was written very well and to the point. I concur with you that the players on this team deserve better on the offensive side of the ball. If I were Patrick Peterson, I would be pissed off big time. Sure LSU is 4-0, and so far, their record has exceeded my expectations. Their offensive play leaves a lot to be desired. Unless, LSU can run the ball 40 times for 220 + yards a game during the real SEC challenges this season, I do not see any team taking LSU's passing game seriously.

I do not have an axe to grind against Coach Miles. I just think we are going to have an uphill climb against Florida, Bama, Auburn, and Arkansas. We should be fine against our two rent-a-win teams at home. The true measuring stick for most Tiger fans are our record against Meyer, Satan, and Petrino. Auburn is no slouch either. If we cannot beat those teams consistently, we cannot win the SEC nor the BCS championship. It doesn't matter if the Boston Red Sox can beat Baltimore or Toronto or Oakland, unless you can beat the Yankees, you are not winning the whole enchilada. If you want to be the best, you have to measure your organization against the best.

My prediction for this season was for 7-5 for LSU. I think they will probably do better than that. I was too pestimistic and I apologize !



Posted by rji1160
Member since May 2004
21 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:58 pm to
keep in mind if did not have Patrick Peterson we would be 2 & 2. Miles must do something about the qb.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4617 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Walter Cronkite was a dumbass about Vietnam


You are correct, but rather Cronkite was right or wrong has nothing to do with his post.
Posted by LaronLandry
Member since Oct 2008
265 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 1:01 pm to
Why the hell did this get a sticky.

quote:

deafjam

What up Benito?
Posted by Chitter Chatter
In and Out of Consciousness
Member since Sep 2009
4660 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 1:02 pm to
Is Bailey a redshirt? If not does he suck? Is it possible that he's better than JJ or JL?

Please Les..... recruit a handful of QBs and assure them GC will not be around.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Exactly. I said it all there. I can't make anyone read it. But I feel better now


Well put Kelvin
Posted by countryboy2
Zimbabwe
Member since Jan 2009
1474 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 1:30 pm to
Please send this to the the Advocate to be printed in the opinion or letter to the editor section. Someone please give him contact info to get this letter to coaches/admin -- although they must already know this
Posted by grif82
Member since Aug 2008
8151 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 1:40 pm to
So far this thread:


Realist = too much to count

Miles/JJ asskissers = 4, maybe 5
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14424 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 1:54 pm to
They unstickied everything.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35661 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

This is well-written mindless drivel.




Do you resent the recognition that he's getting?

I resent ignorance being rewarded...so I guess the answer to your question is, yes.
Posted by pdxlsufan
Beaverton, Oregon
Member since May 2008
3226 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 2:03 pm to
Mike, I appreciate your perspective but I couldn't disagree more.

I read today's paper and I see a couple major issues you didn't hit on at all:

1) Offensive penalties put us in too many long yardage situations

quote:

"Jefferson seemed to come out in rhythm early in the game, but a spate of penalties constantly forced LSU to work from behind the chains.

The Tigers were flagged for seven offensive penalties: three holding infractions, three false starts and an illegal formation.

As a result, the Tigers ran eight plays when more than 10 yards were needed for a first down. On 13 third downs, the average distance to go was 9.2 yards and LSU converted only 3 of 13, nine on six first-half chances."
2) Receivers not running the correct route or worse yet, dropping the ball or deflecting the ball to the waiting hands of a defender.

quote:

Not that Jefferson was solo in his struggles.

"On the first offensive series, senior Terrence Toliver botched a catch on a well-thrown Jefferson pass inside the WVU 20-yard-line and the Mountaineers’ Keith Tandy picked off the carom."

"Inside receiver Russell Shepard also was targeted on a few throws when it appeared his route might not have been run as precisely as necessary."

"Another 20-yard strike to Toliver was wiped out by a holding penalty on P.J. Lonergan."

“It’s a lot of little nitpicky things,” Ridley said. “In the first quarter we had so many penalties, all because of little things. But they add up and that’s aggravating.”


Jefferson clearly has his problems and Lee will likely see more playing time. But I hold out little hope that Lee is some messiah that will energize our offense. The fans seem to have some mystical faith (not unlike the people who voted for a certain candidate in 2008) that Lee will come in and be our savior. Folks, the QB cupboard is bare. We are stuck with the mediocre QBs we have this year. This isn't the NFL -- we can't make a midseason trade for Michael Vick. Lee and Jefferson are all we have unless they convert Shepard back to QB. And if Lee was all that fantastic in practice, he would have won the starting job. He will get his chance - at a minimum I see him playing a lot against McNeese or earlier if LSU falls behind early against Florida or Tennessee. Soon enough, you'll get to see Lee play some serious minutes. But all this bitching and moaning in the middle of a thus far undefeated season is highly unproductive. It's a self fulfilling prophecy -- we keep telling the QB he sucks and he lives up to your expectations that he should suck. Frankly, I think the fans would be more disappointed if they had nothing to boo about. So many of them hate Miles (and conversely lust over Saban), that they want reasons to boo so they can run Miles out of town and go get the next new shiny Saban wannabe. It's human nature to bitch, bitch, bitch. And Tiger fans are expert bitchers.

And I'll bet that as the season goes on and Petrino and Arkansas look better and better, there will be a lot of threads on TD talking about how Petrino is the new shiny Saban wannabe that we must immediately hire for a gazillion dollars. Not only are LSU fans expert bitchers, we're also experts at coveting every shiny thing our neighbors have that we don't have.
Posted by pdxlsufan
Beaverton, Oregon
Member since May 2008
3226 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Miles/JJ asskissers = 4, maybe 5


I think you forgot to count blindfolded JL ball-lickers.
Posted by pdxlsufan
Beaverton, Oregon
Member since May 2008
3226 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

I have been a long time supporter of our coach’s decisions concerning players. I supported the coach’s decision in the MF / JR debate. The coaches see the players every day in practice. If JL was obviously better than JJ, I firmly believe he would be starting. The scary thing is that JL is probably not better than JJ. Even with that, I do think that it is time for JL to get some meaning playing time.


JL will get serious minutes as the year goes on, probably against McNeese or sooner if JJ suffers a major collapse or the team falls behind by multiple scores against Tennessee or Florida. Regardless, it won't come soon enough for JJ's blind faith fanatical followers.

But you correctly highlight the real problem -- it's highly unlikely JL will be our savior as he hasn't impressed the coaches enough to start him. The cupboard is bare -- these are the 2 QBs we are stuck with this year.

The only theory that might be plausible for JL being our savior is that the receivers are tanking it for JJ because they have no faith in him. But that's a really hard theory to believe. JL could be a spark plug, but I just don't see it. But he'll get his chance to prove me wrong soon enough...
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35661 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Folks, the QB cupboard is bare. We are stuck with the mediocre QBs we have this year.

I don't have a problem with the talents or efforts of any players on this team. And under no circumstances would I EVER boo a player.
What I do have a problem with is a coaching staff that doesn't know how to take advantage of the talent this team does have on offense. Especially when they're paid millions of dollars to do just that.
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