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Snarky BR media - should they be muzzled?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:15 am
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:15 am
A few weeks ago there was a story out of Fayetteville about a female reporter being fired because she wore a non-hogs cap.Not only did the coach not want to take anymore questions from reporter in gator's hat, the station considered that remark serious and decided to part ways with her. They claim that the station promotes hog sports and there was no place for anything contrary.
On the other hand, we hear about reporters arguing with LSU Coach about the program he manages. No one in BR media market claims any pressure from LSU SID to moderate their coverage. Media in BR had grudging respect for Saban who was always curt and kept them at arms length - aight, it's time to move on! Current bunch of reporters seem to take more access to the program for granted - Why won't Les let us talk to Lee? This from the days when OC and DC were not allowed to talk to the media.
Last night's show by Charles Hanagriff was a veritable bitchfest with the host's certitude about the future of the program. In various segments there were discussions about the impact of negativity on recruiting, booing in the stands, and respect for players and coaches. That cat may have already been let out of the bag. I hope we do not have see the effects of pervasive negativity, should the tigers have a sluggish stretch - Hope they have a clean, crisp game. More importantly, media should monitor its tone before it bites the hand that feeds it.
We are barely a newspaper and 1-and-half radio station market. We look at NOLA and Shreveport writers for alternate views. Until we develop into a mature market, media personalities should temper their narcissism towards their words/voice. They need rival voices to challenge their views - not just sycophants who concur and echo their sentiments.
Media should not only remember their plight of the 90s, when they were unable to find enough interest to fill airtime, they should also remember hosannas in praise of Saints and their fan base. In large markets where people have more to do than just follow their local football team, you may not find the passion of tiger fans. With that passion comes a responsibility to nourish it.
No one in BR market is behaving like the hog sports market. Does that represent a remarkable restraint on part of LSU and the independence of media? Or does it represent unhinged, flow with the wind attitude of the prevailing mood?
On the other hand, we hear about reporters arguing with LSU Coach about the program he manages. No one in BR media market claims any pressure from LSU SID to moderate their coverage. Media in BR had grudging respect for Saban who was always curt and kept them at arms length - aight, it's time to move on! Current bunch of reporters seem to take more access to the program for granted - Why won't Les let us talk to Lee? This from the days when OC and DC were not allowed to talk to the media.
Last night's show by Charles Hanagriff was a veritable bitchfest with the host's certitude about the future of the program. In various segments there were discussions about the impact of negativity on recruiting, booing in the stands, and respect for players and coaches. That cat may have already been let out of the bag. I hope we do not have see the effects of pervasive negativity, should the tigers have a sluggish stretch - Hope they have a clean, crisp game. More importantly, media should monitor its tone before it bites the hand that feeds it.
We are barely a newspaper and 1-and-half radio station market. We look at NOLA and Shreveport writers for alternate views. Until we develop into a mature market, media personalities should temper their narcissism towards their words/voice. They need rival voices to challenge their views - not just sycophants who concur and echo their sentiments.
Media should not only remember their plight of the 90s, when they were unable to find enough interest to fill airtime, they should also remember hosannas in praise of Saints and their fan base. In large markets where people have more to do than just follow their local football team, you may not find the passion of tiger fans. With that passion comes a responsibility to nourish it.
No one in BR market is behaving like the hog sports market. Does that represent a remarkable restraint on part of LSU and the independence of media? Or does it represent unhinged, flow with the wind attitude of the prevailing mood?
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:19 am to YellowShoe
That was way too deep for this board.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:20 am to YellowShoe
The Advocate, WAFB, etc do not work for LSU. They have opinions like everyone else.
The woman who wore the UF hat to the Arky presser perhaps made a dumb move, but I think the fact she was fired is idiotic.
The woman who wore the UF hat to the Arky presser perhaps made a dumb move, but I think the fact she was fired is idiotic.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:21 am to YellowShoe
Yeah, I read about half of it, and freedom of the press much?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:23 am to YellowShoe
fricking communist. Take that control the press shite out of here....
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:23 am to YellowShoe
quote:they have no responsibility to nourish anything. if people don't like it, they stop reading/watching
With that passion comes a responsibility to nourish it.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:26 am to YellowShoe
Are you serious? What local reporters argue with Miles? They all pretend that he is not a terrible coach so they can keep getting free monday buffets.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:27 am to Jcorye1
We don't need WBRZ, WAFB, Hannigrif to be a mouthpiece for LSU. It's not their job to only present LSU sports in a positive light. That's not a news outlet. That's a public relations firm. Besides, Les Miles already has Jordy Hultberg for that.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:28 am to Maximus
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free monday buffets
Looks like Hanagriff has had a few too many
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:30 am to YellowShoe
I've been saying for years that government institutions need to crack down on the media.
How are we supposed to control the flow of information if the press is allowed to disseminate information unfettered?
Preseason polls are an excellent example. These obviously serve no purpose, and often times are detrimental to the national perception of our team. We need to supress the printing of the opinions of the members of the press.
How are we supposed to control the flow of information if the press is allowed to disseminate information unfettered?
Preseason polls are an excellent example. These obviously serve no purpose, and often times are detrimental to the national perception of our team. We need to supress the printing of the opinions of the members of the press.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:30 am to YellowShoe
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No one in BR market is behaving like the hog sports market. Does that represent a remarkable restraint on part of LSU and the independence of media? Or does it represent unhinged, flow with the wind attitude of the prevailing mood?
thought provoking....if you consider the media as nothing more than a platform for commercial interests, then it it easy to understand how they think and what they present.
nice change of pace.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:32 am to Jcorye1
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Yeah, I read about half of it, and freedom of the press much?
Firing the woman over the hate was a bit much but I do think he has a point about whether or not Miles gives to much access. My impression from listening to media in Baton Rouge is that Miles manages to give to much so there is no mystic about what is going on behind the curtain and not enough to make the media like him. Think of it this way. There are two equilibrium points to make the media write good things about you through the level of access. Either the Pete Carrol method of open practices and basically full access to pretty much everything the team does or the Nick Saban full control of the release of information. In the first case, they love having that level of access so the team and coaching staff gets good press. In the other, they have no idea exactly what the hell is going on and as media consumers don't really have much interest in how hard it is for the media producers to do their job they tend to write good things about the team as you lose more credibility about being wrong about a bad team than being wrong about a good team. Miles may just have picked a bad point at which the media has a decent understanding of what is going on and they are pissed about the limits of their access.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:36 am to manwich
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if people don't like it, they stop reading/watching
Your statement may be valid for print media. But broadcast media does not require any effort by the couch potato. Th segment of fans that do not read but prefer to listen are more likely to be swayed by the sentiments professed. Moreover, when the media is on (unlike print media), there could be others who are influenced - not just the primary listener, even children.
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they have no responsibility to nourish anything.
BR market can now afford more sports coverage because of the success of the program in last 10 years. Without a successful program or fan interest, there may not be a market for all of these yaketeers.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:39 am to YellowShoe
I don't mind them being negative but I can't hardly listen to most sports talk.. they're so fricking stupid 
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:40 am to YellowShoe
quote:when a program slumps, the market adjusts
BR market can now afford more sports coverage because of the success of the program in last 10 years. Without a successful program or fan interest, there may not be a market for all of these yaketeers.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:44 am to YellowShoe
my problem with our media is that they jump on the bandwagon of negativity and ride. It would be nice if just 1 of the talk radio host would actually take the time to look at reality rather than just follow the themes of run,run,punt. Option to short side, JJ sucks, etc. Please take the time to know facts instead of just agreeing with every caller.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:44 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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We need to supress the printing of the opinions of the members of the press.
This post is about BR media, not about media in general.What should the media do in a small market to keep it viable?
Remember, BR sports talk used to be a very small segment of sports media. Today, radio/TV personalities have higher recognition that print media.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:46 am to YellowShoe
As if we didn't know this already...people will bitch about anything. Most complaints I hear from the BR media is that they are too soft on LSU but you feel they're too critical.
To your broader point, I'm glad to see the BR media being critical when there are obvious issues. I much prefer this to being the lapdog of the program like you imply is a good thing in places like Arkansas. In 2010 there are many outlets for sports info, this board being one of them.
Second, who do you imply should "muzzle" the media? WTF is this, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Iran? frick no "they should not be muzzled any more than you should be allowed to write this shite on a message board accessable by those with an internet connection in the free world.
To your broader point, I'm glad to see the BR media being critical when there are obvious issues. I much prefer this to being the lapdog of the program like you imply is a good thing in places like Arkansas. In 2010 there are many outlets for sports info, this board being one of them.
Second, who do you imply should "muzzle" the media? WTF is this, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Iran? frick no "they should not be muzzled any more than you should be allowed to write this shite on a message board accessable by those with an internet connection in the free world.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:47 am to lctiger
quote:if they thought their ratings would go up, they would. as it is, the masses are feeling negative so they cater to that
It would be nice if just 1 of the talk radio host would actually take the time to look at reality rather than just follow the themes of run,run,punt. Option to short side, JJ sucks, etc. Please take the time to know facts instead of just agreeing with every caller.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:48 am to glaucon
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I do think he has a point about whether or not Miles gives to much access. My impression from listening to media in Baton Rouge is that Miles manages to give to much so there is no mystic about what is going on behind the curtain and not enough to make the media like him
they can't watch practice and he never gives any injury updates, what is being revealed from behind the curtain?
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