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re: Snarky BR media - should they be muzzled?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:52 am to Ghostfacedistiller
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:52 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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Second, who do you imply should "muzzle" the media? WTF is this, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Iran? frick no "they should not be muzzled any more than you should be allowed to write this shite on a message board accessable by those with an internet connection in the free world.
In a small market, the lone broadcast medium is no different than Pravda or Xinhua (remember - WJBO changed their news source from CBS to Fox because the station manager did not like Dan Rather's coverage of President Bush). That should not be confused with this conversation or your ability to make a counter point. You read this post and chose to engage in it.
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 11:01 am
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:52 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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I've been saying for years that government institutions need to crack down on the media.
How are we supposed to control the flow of information if the press is allowed to disseminate information unfettered?
Sounds like: "College Football" played in Communist USSR
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:52 am to WildTchoupitoulas
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 10:53 am
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:52 am to YellowShoe
YellowShoe, you are a true niggler!
Do you not realize that the BR media's coverage of LSU football is already as soft as it gets?
We have a lot of problems with our program right now. Snarky coverage is certainly not one of them
Do you not realize that the BR media's coverage of LSU football is already as soft as it gets?
We have a lot of problems with our program right now. Snarky coverage is certainly not one of them
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:54 am to Maximus
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they can't watch practice and he never gives any injury updates, what is being revealed from behind the curtain?
What's under the bikini?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:55 am to manwich
I realize that its about ratings, but it sure would be nice if just once they would state a fact rather than just spouting out an opinion. Example caller dumbass #1 says, I'm so sick of running up the middle on 1st down...GC sucks. Radio host should be able to give specific stats of our % run to pass on 1st down, this would open up some logical discussion. Instead they just agree with caller and talk about selling TVs and Sausage.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:59 am to Maximus
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they can't watch practice and he never gives any injury updates, what is being revealed from behind the curtain?
Did you not read the whole sentence or post? He gives just enough so that there is no real mystery and so little that it pisses the media off.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:59 am to lctiger
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but it sure would be nice if just once they would state a fact rather than just spouting
out an opinion.
I'm not defending the BR media, but who exactly are you refering too and in what context?
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Example caller dumbass #1 says, I'm so sick of running up the middle on 1st down...GC sucks. Radio host should be able to give specific stats of our % run to pass on 1st down, this would open up some logical discussion.
Again, what shows? The post game show on 98.5 seems pretty knowledgeable. I don't listen to 1210 during the day.
You should start your own station and show if you have such great insight.
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talk about selling TVs and Sausage.
Agree
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:01 am to YellowShoe
You simply copied my post. Do you have an answer for me about who should be "muzzling" the media? Serious question.
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 11:02 am
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:01 am to YellowShoe
How long have you been a Marxist ?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:02 am to lctiger
quote:what facts? stats? nobody wants to hear a sports anchor rattle off stats on the evening news. they want it summed up. that's what they do.
it sure would be nice if just once they would state a fact rather than just spouting out an opinion.
if you mean print journalism, you don't read much, do you?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:03 am to YellowShoe
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More importantly, media should monitor its tone before it bites the hand that feeds it.
Well, the truth is, LES is the one who created this effect. And here's why:
He provides VERY little access to reporters. They really don't have the pulse of the team as the season progresses and they certainly don't have specifics.
This is compounded by not only Les's bewildering style of verbal communications but by his need to keep the details close to the vest.
I think, quite naturally the media feels a little sheepish because they can offer their audience only the same re-treaded SPECULATION that the fans already know.
Les leaves himself without media allies because he doesn't offer them the "inside scoop" that the coaches with political saavy do. They might like him for his decency, his humanity, but he sure makes it hard for them to do THEIR job.
I think Les has poor instincts with the media. He should open the door a LOT more. This would be in HIS best interest. Remember when something goes wrong, it helps to have a reporter in your corner saying "But Les went over that at practice with JJ for an hour Wednesday" or "Les specifically addressed that issue with us last week " .
Listening to Hangriff, cauble, Ott etc it is obvious that there is a SIGNIFICANT "eyerolling" factor growing in the media, and that is seldom good for anyone.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:04 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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Do you have an answer for me
Too quick to click. Updated with edits.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:07 am to manwich
being that I used an example of "caller #1" I thought most would be able to determine which media I was talking about.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:11 am to Maximus
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Are you serious? What local reporters argue with Miles? They all pretend that he is not a terrible coach so they can keep getting free monday buffets.
This and why do you want them to pump sunshine up your butt? Would you prefer them to cover Miles with kid gloves like the national media covers obama?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:12 am to YellowShoe
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In a small market, the lone broadcast medium is no different than Pravda or Xinhua (remember - WJBO changed their news source from CBS to Fox because the station manager did not like Dan Rather's coverage of President Bush). That should not be confused with this conversation or your ability to make a counter point. You read this post and chose to engage in it.
For one, Baton Rouge is not that small, espescially compared to the rest of the conference. Outside of Nashville, where college sports are clearly second, it's the biggest metro area in the SEC. And what do you define as the lone broadcast medium, talk radio? Have you limited your media beef to just talk radio now?
Again, who specifically should be muzzling the media?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:12 am to glaucon
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Did you not read the whole sentence or post? He gives just enough so that there is no real mystery and so little that it pisses the media off.
Mystery to what? Just making vague statements doesn't make it true. What info is being revealed? Please be specific.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:15 am to Maximus
quote:kryptonite to the rantard
Please be specific.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:23 am to Maximus
They get to watch a couple minutes of practice and they get to interview players and assistant coaches.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 11:40 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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Baton Rouge is not that small, espescially compared to the rest of the conference
True. But not large enough to sustain multiple newspapers and radio stations. In some instances Atlanta, Jacksonville, New Orleans etc could be considered secondary markets for some schools.
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And what do you define as the lone broadcast medium, talk radio?
TV has its sports segment. Sports radio seems to dominate LSU sports from broadcasting perspective.
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Have you limited your media beef to just talk radio now?
Print and TV journalists appear on segments on sports radio to promote their articles. In fact, they seem to be moderating influences on the tone and conversation.
In early 90s, Morning Advocate was perhaps the primary source for LSU football related journalism. Today sports radio has moved from the fringe to the center of attention. Perhaps, Internet will weigh in soon enough and tilt the balance.
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who specifically should be muzzling the media?
The media itself. Whenever possible, should act as its own counterweight. Some of these organizations may have an ombudsman to monitor their drift.
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