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re: Zack Morris is a little prick

Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:12 am to
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:12 am to
I'll read this entire thread in a minute, but for now I'll just break down your initial post..

First of all, Zack was a douche. No doubt. But he's only a douche because he's such a badass, not to mention his pimp skills.
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He was constantly selling his friends down the river to get ahead (bayside school song contest)

But he did that to get people to change their opinions of how much of a srew-up he was. Not that it excuses it, but still...there was a reason for it. Besides, everyone in the competition was weak-minded anyway. Zack to Tori: "You can't handle this..." Tori: I CAN'T HANDLE THIS!!" Pawns.
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or exploiting them in attempts to make a profit (screech's secret sauce/lucky beret, Hot Sundaes)

Screech was lucky as frick to be hanging with the cool kids. All he ever was was a dorky nerd who somehow managed to be in the coolest clique in school. So Zack was trying to make him a star, like with the chess episode. Sure, he made money off of him from time to time, but why curse Zack for creating and taking advantage of good situations..? The Secret Sauce thing...Screech was the one who made/blew all that money. The only person Zack schemed was Robin's chunky arse, to recover the debts and avoid the impending lawsuit. As for Hot Sundae, how can you fault Zack for trying to get his friends a record deal? That's going above and beyond the duties of friendship IMO.
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For someone so good at scheming and plotting, he was a complete moron considering he barely graduated high school.

Moron? Dude smoked the SAT, schemed the principal daily, and constantly fricked the hottest chicks at school (as well as at USC). shite, he even gave the valedictorian speech at graduation. Sounds like he did just fine to me.
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Bottom line= AC Slater > Zach Morris

In what way? Muscles, maybe. But even when they got in a fight, Slater (who was a wrestling star) couldn't even handle Zack. And Slater was never fricking the hottest chick in school (except maybe for Cut Day and the Casey Casem dance-off episode). frick AC Slater.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:15 am to
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I think his ultimate a-hole move was kissing Lisa Turtle. Screech was his best friend, and despite the fact we knew Screech and Lisa would never go steady, you just don't cross that line.

Dude, Screech stole Zack's chick TWICE. Remember this from my old "SBTB: backstabbing and infidelity" thread:
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I was thinking about this yesterday...ever notice how much infidelity and general douchebaggery went on dring Saved By The Bell?

Examples:

- In 8th grade, Zack takes Shana to the dance, even though he knows Mikey has a crush on her. At first, it's not Zack's fault, cuz she asked him to the dance, and he didn't know about Mikey's feelings, but then after he finds out, and Mikey warns him not to take her, he does anyway just to spite him.

- On the Cut Day episode, Jessie and Slater basically cheat on each other...Jessie falls for Graham, and Slater parties with Kelly all day.

- Also, Slater knows Kelly is his best friend's ex, yet he hangs with her anyway. Good thing Zack's 85 other girlfriends were there to keep him company.

- When Slater's sister JB comes to Bayside, Zack basically makes the move on her even though Slater is not cool with it. I guess "Steam up The Windows" Morris doesn't give a frick about his best friend.

- Even worse was the Snow White and the 7 (8) Dorks episode when Zack was with Kelly, and Slater was with Jessie, and Zack and Jessie cheat on them with each other.

- Malibu Sands block of shows...Stacey falls for Zack and leads him on, even though she knows damn well she has a boyfriend back home in Boston. Also, how old was she? Craig Strand was in college, and Zack was in the summer of his senior year.

- In their senior year, when Slater's ex-girlfriend comes to Bayside, Zack immediately goes for her. He knows Slater isn't cool with it, yet does it anyway.

- Also in their senior year, Zack makes a move on Lisa, knowing that Screech, his best friend for life, has been in love with her forever. He does say that if Screech doesn't like it, that he won't see Lisa, but bottom line is that he should have known better anyway.

- Kelly, who always played such a sweetheart, cheated on Zack with Jeff, just because he was good looking and her boss (and in college). And Zack was supposed to be her true love.

- Also, only a little while later, Jeff was cheating on Kelly with that chick at the Attic.

- In the Date Auction episode, Zack is obviously talking to Lydia (even though he calls her Linda...does she really expect Zack to keep up with the names of all his whores..?), yet he "wins" a date with fatty Wendy. And he blows her off at the dance because Wendy is hungry and Zack is gonna take her to the Max. This isn't really fricking anybody over (for once), but it's just a general dick move by Zack.

- In the SAT's episode, Heather accepts the "study date" with Zack, even though she had a boyfriend. Now, in her defense, she did invite Bob to the date, but still...you mean to tell me that a chick that went to Bayside didn't know about the pimpness of Zack Morris? No fricking way.

- Chess episode, Allison only dates Guy-Guy because he has money.

- At one point, even though reluctant, Zack goes out with Nicki, Kelly's sister while he and Kelly are dating.

- In the Nurse Jennifer one, Zack asks Kelly to go steady, only to turn right around and ditch her for the school nurse.

- Same episode, Kelly rebounds pretty fricking fast when she goes out with Melvyn Nerdley, Screech's buddy.

- In the Dating Tape episode, Kelly is dating Zack, but goes out with Vince Montana. She is just teaching Zack a lesson, but is making out with the dude "all over campus." Slut.

- The Jim Diamond episode, Screech, knowing full well that Tori and Zack are dating...acts like he and Tori are together.

- And let's not forget when Zack and Slater wrecked each others' dates with the new chick, Joanna Peterson...which of course leads to the badassest fight in tv history.

All in all, how good of friends were all these people? Seems like all they did was backstab and cheat on each other... Bottom line is that SBTB was clearly not a good model for solid relationships.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:17 am to
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Oh well if you want to go there we can talk about how Zack caused all the problems when Zack Attack made it big. He fell slave to the succubus publicist because she convinced him to go solo and that he didn't need his friends... AND HE BELIEVED IT. Friends forever, my arse.

First of all, that was a dream...it never happened. And even still, it was Zack's dream. So why wouldn't he be the star?

And second of all, it wasn't called Slater Attack.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:19 am to
Can Slater stop time?

No.

/thread
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:20 am to
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Since when is Slater in need of a Chris Hansen intervention? Zack was the one flirting w/ Kelly's little sister.

He was like 16 at the time. Nikki was like 14. Hardly Chris Hanses worthy.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:24 am to
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Slater only dated Jesse as a consolation prize for not winning the heart of Kelly. Hell, Slater didn't even take her shite. He wouldn't constantly say make sexist comments to her despite her femenist stance on everything.

Then explain this.


Also, 11 reasons AC Slater was a sissified pansy.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:26 am to
Zack morris helped everyone forget Zach the Lego Maniac, as a kid in Elementary school, it was cool to stop hearing that everytime someone said your name.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:29 am to
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I can think of plenty of instances where Zack had an idea and his motivation behind it somehow involved him profiting financially. (glee club all expense trip to Hawaii thanks Violet for singing the solo)

So now you hate on Zack for picking up some extra-curricular activities and clubs? Nice.

I bet you also hate on him for trying to run for student president against Jessie.
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Jesse was president of the Student Council, so obviously she understood people if she could win that election.

Correction, Zack won that election even after he was telling eveeryone NOT to vote for him.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:34 am to
This is a great thread. I have been LMAO the whole time reading this, great memories of a great show.

I liked AC but Zack was the man
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:35 am to
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CocomoLSU


Damn, Boomed this thread hard core.

Who would of thunk it?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:37 am to
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How many times did Zack dress in drag?

At least once as a freshman to fool Screech into believing that a chick could actually like him.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:39 am to
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Damn, Boomed this thread hard core.

Who would of thunk it?

There are some great SBTB threads on the classics board.
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:41 am to
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This post was edited on 7/29/10 at 10:42 am
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:41 am to
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At least once as a freshman to fool Screech into believing that a chick could actually like him.


and another when he and jesse spied on slater and JB's date at the movies.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:42 am to
JB was Slater's little sister. Slater was on the date with Jennifer.

And another at the end of the Video Yearbook episode.
This post was edited on 7/29/10 at 11:00 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:58 am to
Okay, it took a while, but I found video evidence of three different times Zack was in drag:







Posted by LfcSU3520
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:06 pm to
does anyone else consider Showgirls to be like a natural continuation for Jesse? For some reason it just fits for me knowing her past problems with drugs and self image. I've just always considered Showgirls to be another chapter in the sbtb saga.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:16 pm to
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AC Slater > Zach Morris


slater's jeans were fricking glorious, remember the ones with 5 inch thick waist and like 3 buckles? need to score me some of those
This post was edited on 7/29/10 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Aubie83
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:52 pm to
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Zack was a way bigger creeper. He would have gone gay for Johnny Dakota if Johnny wasn't so into Kelly


Dude that is so untrue...Zack stopped like Johnny Dakota when he found out he smoked pot....
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