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Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Whitrabbt
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2009
437 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:33 pm
Ive got my undergrad degree in Chemistry. How hard would it be for me to get my MBA and would this be a wise thing to do if i am lookin to advance into the upper management levels of the company I work for, a rather large multi-national corportaion.
Posted by Newbomb Turk
perfectanschlagen
Member since May 2008
9961 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 3:42 pm to
Get some work experience first and then apply in 2-4 years. Go to the best school you can get into as prestige is everything in the MBA game.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 4:09 pm to
I went straight into MBA school after finishing my Physics undergrad, and quite frankly it was a breeze.

The problem was that even though I was getting excellent greats with no headache, I didn't have the real-life experience to serve as a reference and so I sometimes still didn't get the real point. I had no trouble regurgitating, for example, different types of organizational structure, but didn't have a clue about why they worked in certain situations but not in others.

My take is that a lot of the tools they teach you can be picked up on your own. The real value is the social aspect, if you pick your school carefully you meet a lot of others who want to do the same sort of thing, which will help a great deal.
Posted by thelawisafterme
Bamberg Germany
Member since Jan 2009
2147 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 5:22 pm to
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was getting excellent greats




did you mean to say "grades"?
Posted by Cantstandya
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
440 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 6:23 pm to
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Go to the best school you can get into as prestige is everything in the MBA game.


Even if you have to spend 2x as much to attend the better school???

I'm actually struggling with this decision right now.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 7:00 pm to
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did you mean to say "grades"?


Yeah, originally intended "great grades" or something, went back to edit, and then got distracted when my partner came in to review our latest deal and simultaneously the redheaded secretary let a tooth scrape just a touch down there.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 7:01 pm to
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Even if you have to spend 2x as much to attend the better school???


Depending on the schools involved and your people skills, it could be worth more than that.
Posted by Cantstandya
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
440 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 7:07 pm to
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Depending on the schools involved


LSU vs Tulane

40K vs 80K

Worth it????
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 7:33 pm to
What industry do you want to focus in and where do you want to live? And why specifically do you want to get an MBA? There are good answers to those questions but they are pretty crucial.
Posted by Cantstandya
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
440 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:15 pm to
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What industry do you want to focus in


I am an engineer in the oil/gas industry. I want to stick with the energy sector.

quote:

and where do you want to live?


Houston, New Orleans, Baton Rouge. I have no interest in leaving this region.


quote:

And why specifically do you want to get an MBA?


Job Security, Growth Potential, More interesting work, More Opportunities, etc...
Posted by Bayou Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
3736 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

I am an engineer in the oil/gas industry. I want to stick with the energy sector.
I am also an engineer in the energy industry. I got my MBA at night school while working full-time. The advantage is that with each class I attended, I could immediately apply the principles.

My degree was by no means from a prestigious institute, but I worked at the classes as if it were. Thus I got a lot of knowledge out of it that has helped me in my career. Mostly, I am a career engineer. I have had leadership opportunities, but people problems are not my cup of tea. Plus, the technical side can be pretty fun and just as lucrative.

Here are a few topics that were helpful - accounting concepts, cash flow analysis and metrics, organizational structure and strategy, marketing (core concepts as applied to securing project funding), IT systems and MS Access skills, statistical analysis. There are plenty more concepts that have helped, but those are just off the top of my head.

Now, if I would have done MBA before starting work, only about 15% of that info would have been retained and applied (versus ~85%). But again, I was aiming for the concepts, not the diploma. Either way, I think you should work a few years in the energy sector, and you will get much more out of the MBA, even if you go to school part time. A friend of mine was a petroleum engineer for a few years and started Harvard MBA in the fall. I guarantee you he is getting much more out of it than if he had gone right out of undergrad.
This post was edited on 12/18/09 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Cantstandya
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
440 posts
Posted on 12/18/09 at 9:26 pm to
Thanks Bayou. I've been out of school for almost 6 years so I've got a little experience under my belt. And like you, I'll be doing a part-time MBA program. But unlike you, I think that I would like to pursue leadership opportunities. I know Tulane and LSU are both good schools, but the added prestige of the Tulane MBA has got me thinking.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 12/19/09 at 12:50 am to
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LSU vs Tulane

40K vs 80K

Worth it????


LSU is only about 20K.

Also, to be completely honest, I don't know if a Tulane MBA has that much more prestige in Louisiana, especially outside of finance.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
15384 posts
Posted on 12/19/09 at 11:44 am to
I'm trying to guage the value of schools in the 10-25 range. Are Texas, UNC and UCLA worth leaving work for 18 months to pursue a full-time MBA? Would it depend on scholarship money or are they worth full tuition?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/19/09 at 2:39 pm to
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I am an engineer in the oil/gas industry. I want to stick with the energy sector.


In that case I probably can't help much. My bankground is finance/accounting/IT.

quote:

I have no interest in leaving this region.


Well, I'll say something anyway. I don't know how Tulane compares with LSU in your industry, but if you are staying local LSU won't be a bad choice. Whether Tulane is worth the extra $$ I have no idea.

There. You just saw someone post here that he has no clue. That should be someone's sig.

quote:

Job Security, Growth Potential, More interesting work, More Opportunities, etc...


Yep, if you hook into the right MBA network you should get that. This is the biggest difference between an MBA and undergrad IMO.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/19/09 at 2:42 pm to
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Are Texas, UNC and UCLA worth leaving work for 18 months to pursue a full-time MBA? Would it depend on scholarship money or are they worth full tuition?


They are all very fine schools. I did undergrad at UT and walked away very impressed by the school's programs in pretty much any field.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 12/19/09 at 3:24 pm to
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I'm trying to guage the value of schools in the 10-25 range. Are Texas, UNC and UCLA worth leaving work for 18 months to pursue a full-time MBA? Would it depend on scholarship money or are they worth full tuition?


1) It depends on the field of study.

Some fields will give better returns than others.

2) It depends on how smart you are.

If you aren't smart enough to back up the MBA that you are getting, it means nothing. the top schools don't have the highest paid graduates because the school is that much better, it's because they take a higher quality student and provide them with the tools and network to succeed.

An impressive MBA might get you a job out of the gate, but it won't keep that job for you.

3) It depends on how hard you are willing to work

The harder you are willing to work while you are in school, and, more importantly, after you graduate, the more the education is worth. See the above for the reasoning.
Posted by LSUtigers34
SoCal
Member since Aug 2007
10 posts
Posted on 12/20/09 at 2:25 am to
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A friend of mine was a petroleum engineer for a few years and started Harvard MBA in the fall. I guarantee you he is getting much more out of it than if he had gone right out of undergrad.


I think you and I both know the same guy. Can't be too many petroleum engineers who get into Harvard.
Posted by HurricaneDunc
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
10472 posts
Posted on 12/20/09 at 10:19 am to
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LSU is only about 20K.

Also, to be completely honest, I don't know if a Tulane MBA has that much more prestige in Louisiana, especially outside of finance.


if you'd ever like to leave Louisiana, I'd go to Tulane. LSU MBA is fairly worthess in my opinion. that program needs vast improvement to ever be relevant outside of Louisiana and certain part of Houston
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 12/20/09 at 10:30 am to
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if you'd ever like to leave Louisiana, I'd go to Tulane. LSU MBA is fairly worthess in my opinion. that program needs vast improvement to ever be relevant outside of Louisiana and certain part of Houston


Thanks for the drive by on the LSU MBA program.

The guy said he didn't want to leave the state.
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