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Brian Kelley at Notre Dame

Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:10 am
Posted by Geauxtigers468
North Gwinnett County
Member since Sep 2008
6414 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:10 am
Does anyone really think this is a good hire for ND?

I mean the guy is a good coach but has no defense what-so-ever. The only reason he had success at Cincy was because his offense put up the points, but they couldn't stop any one on the D side of the ball.

To coach at ND he is going to need some kind of D. You can't be in shoot-out every week with some of the opponents that ND play.

Just wondering what everyone else was thinking on that move.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:11 am to
decent D last year but lost 9 starters. If he hires a good DC he will do pretty damn well. It does hurt him though that Clausen and Tate are leaving. He has won everywhere he has gone and I don't see Notre Dame being any different.
Posted by Augustus
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2006
8290 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:12 am to
I think Kelly's a good coach, but I wonder how hard Notre Dame went after bigger name guys like Stoops or Meyer. It seemed like Kelly was the first name mentioned after Weis was fired and now, 2 weeks later, Kelly is (supposedly) about to be hired.
Posted by Geauxtigers468
North Gwinnett County
Member since Sep 2008
6414 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:16 am to
quote:

It seemed like Kelly was the first name mentioned after Weis was fired and now, 2 weeks later, Kelly is (supposedly) about to be hired.


I agree with this thinking. Why wouldn't ND wait until after the bowl season to really talk to someone. I know they need a coach for recruiting purposes, but I think they are jumping on a coach to quickly.

They should put out more feelers to see who may be interested, most coaches right now aren't going to say anything until after their bowl game.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:16 am to
quote:

I think Kelly's a good coach, but I wonder how hard Notre Dame went after bigger name guys like Stoops or Meyer. It seemed like Kelly was the first name mentioned after Weis was fired and now, 2 weeks later, Kelly is (supposedly) about to be hired.


Notre Dame is a hype machine. As much as they want to win, they also want to hire the hot name RIGHT AWAY to get all the attention. Stoops or Meyer negotiations would've lasted until after bowl season and still no guarantee they would come. Kelly is the hot new name (IMO rightfully so) and they went with him. They just need to make sure that he hires a solid DC.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8803 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:20 am to
I think it'll be interesting none the less.

Michael Floyd=Marty Gilyard

And he can plug and play with his quarterback.

He won't be able to lure top pro style QBs to ND anymore, but should be able to get a bump in athletes at the skill positions. The big question is his defense as ND was absolutley dominated on the the D-line this year. Manti Te'o will provide a nice LB to buold around and I think they have some skill in their secondary.

If they have the same cake schedule next year, I see 9-3, with BCS bowls the following year on.
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
5942 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:50 am to
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If he hires a good DC


Agreed + 1000. The problem with Kelly, is he is extremely difficult to work for.
Posted by northtiger1122
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
332 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:58 am to
Bad move
Posted by nbogan1
Member since Mar 2006
110 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 12:55 pm to
He actually lost 9 or 10 defensive starters from last year and still went undefeated...pretty good IMO
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 1:02 pm to
Prediction: In his third season Kelly has enough offense to beat all of his opponents except USC (Matt Barkley shreds his D) but because it's Notre Dame and they only have one loss they will play in the NC game and will get utterly destroyed by an SEC defense.

Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 1:18 pm to
i have heard that he is a defensive minded coach. just sayin.....and i know he lost almost his entire D from last year due to gradualtion. i really do not know though.
Posted by StarkvilleTigerFan
Muncie, IN
Member since Jan 2005
3939 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 1:20 pm to
I think its Notre Dame's problem-we all know how ggod they are at picking coaches!!!
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 1:21 pm to
quote:



I mean the guy is a good coach but has no defense what-so-ever. The only reason he had success at Cincy was because his offense put up the points, but they couldn't stop any one on the D side of the ball.


#25 scoring D last year.

He lost 9 starters between then and now.

quote:

You can't be in shoot-out every week with some of the opponents that ND play.


Cinci's schedule>>>>>>>>>>>ND's
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2777 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 2:11 pm to
He'd be a good hire because he has proven success at multiple college stops. That's always a good sign.

But I get the feeling ND may go in a different direction. If they wanted Kelly, it would already be done. They seem to want a defensive minded coach. Maybe Tuberville or Edsall?
Posted by valpeaux
Member since Dec 2007
479 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 3:08 pm to
The guys knows how to coach college kids. That in itself makes him an improvement. I personally would have preferred Edsall or even Skip Holtz who will probably be another Kelly in a few years. It's all about the DC, IMO.

As for Meyer, I think he dug his own grave by reaffirming ad nauseam his commitment to UF. ND doesn't want to look foolish going after him, and sooner or later Meyer's going to pay for being the Belle of the ball that wants to make herself seem so unapproachable. A couple of years without his starts on offense and an improving SEC West and he'll wish he'd taken a better posture with Notre Dame.

That said, I wouldn't want an Urban Meyer offense at Notre Dame anyway. I prefer running games like UA balanced with consistent and occasionally brilliant QB play in basic sets. Too bad neither LSU or ND (I went to both schools) has it.

Posted by LSUcmillion
Member since Dec 2009
636 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 4:34 pm to
Kelly is over-rated. All he plays is poop teams, once he plays Florida then we'll see how good his team is.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 4:51 pm to
The smartest thing for ND and Kelly to do is seal up this deal BEFORE the Sugar Bowl, not coach the bowl game and get the frick out of Cincy. If he coaches against Florida AFTER having accepted the Notre Dame job and gets blown out it's going to look really bad on both ND and Kelly's part.
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12027 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Kelly is over-rated. All he plays is poop teams


What do you think he will do at Notre Dame?

Exactly, he will play more poop teams.
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12027 posts
Posted on 12/9/09 at 5:31 pm to
And I think they should worry about pressing Meyer harder. He is much easier to get having lost the SEC championship game, and he will work better at ND.
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