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re: Arguing With Iowa Idiots

Posted on 11/3/09 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by PastySkankster
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 6:34 pm to
I won't make excuses for losing to Iowa in that game. This is where Les has shown his worth. His Bowl prep and execution are pretty hard to argue with.
Posted by PentagonTiger
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 6:38 pm to
So how that Northern Iowa game go
Posted by Jimmy2Times
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 7:02 pm to
LOL at you guys thinking you could crush Iowa. LSU's offense is God awful. LSU has played some of the worst defenses in college football this year...# 105, # 98, #97, #70, #68, #56, #55, and #2....what have you accomplished? the #100 ranked offense! You couldn't get the ball over the 50 yard line vs. Iowa.
Posted by Leonides
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 7:21 pm to
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LOL at you guys thinking you could crush Iowa. LSU's offense is God awful. LSU has played some of the worst defenses in college football this year...# 105, # 98, #97, #70, #68, #56, #55, and #2....what have you accomplished? the #100 ranked offense! You couldn't get the ball over the 50 yard line vs. Iowa.


Maybe you guys should have had the Hawkeyes sub for the Buckeyes in the 2007 BCS game then. I think Ohio State came into that game ranked 1st in the nation in defense. I don't remember LSU struggling to move the football against a vaunted Big Ten defense on that night.

By the way, how is dipping into the trick bag against the likes of New Mexico State working for your team's confidence?
This post was edited on 11/3/09 at 7:23 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 7:38 pm to
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Iowa would get their arse whipped by Arkansas, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, and possibly Ole Miss. Would be good game against Auburn, South Carolina, and Tennessee. With that said, they might get to the Indy Bowl in a SEC schedule.


That is what someone else said........I said this.

quote:

I am sorry but you can't put georgia, ole piss in the arse whipping column.....they both suck! Auburn, tennessee, and usc would be a better game.


I also think msu would be a better game than georgia and ole piss.
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 7:48 pm to
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By my tally I got the SEC with a 13-11 advantage back to 2000 in bowl games with OSU having went 0-4 in that time frame. I might have missed a couple by accident, but it seems like both conferences have been competitive in head to head bowl games in the last 10 years.


It is misleading to simply look at SEC vs. Big Ten match-ups because it is irrelevant if the #2 Big Ten team beats a #7 SEC team. Instead it would be useful to look at the relative strength of teams within their own conferences before assigning any value to an SEC loss. I have never done this, but my intuition is that many of those Big Ten victories have come when high-ranking Big Ten schools beat low-ranking SEC schools.
Posted by PastySkankster
Houston
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 7:48 pm to
What?
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

Maybe you guys should have had the Hawkeyes sub for the Buckeyes in the 2007 BCS game then. I think Ohio State came into that game ranked 1st in the nation in defense. I don't remember LSU struggling to move the football against a vaunted Big Ten defense on that night.


The guy is not talking about the 07 offense, he is talking about this years offense which sucks.......quit talking about the past. This is the now and we haven't beaten anyone. Your probably one of the fans who thinks losing by 10 to an obviously different tebow than what we are used to was a moral victory, we have beaten terrible sec teams. If he didn't have that concussion it is a different game.
Posted by pilsnerpusher
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 8:52 pm to
I don't know how different the FLA/LSU game is with a healthy Tebow. Healthy or not he still doesn't have any WRs.

But as far as Iowa is concerned. This weekend was the first time I've seen them this year. I was shocked at how little team speed they had. Ohio State doesn't have great team speed but they'll run circles around Iowa. I'm sure Iowa has an outstanding OL that can run power and inside zone with the best of them (they are in the big 10), But I'd be shocked if they had more than 6 or 7 guys that could run in the 4.6 range.
Posted by Nearl
Town
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:05 pm to
Don't know if it was posted in the ten pages I didn't feel like reading, but looking at the site it appears this guy has absolutely no affiliation with Colin Cowherd.
Posted by emmanuellewis
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:15 pm to
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It is misleading to simply look at SEC vs. Big Ten match-ups because it is irrelevant if the #2 Big Ten team beats a #7 SEC team.


Exactly. How about bowl record over the past three years? This is brutal:

Big 10: 7-15 (0-5 BCS)
SEC: 19-7 (5-1 BCS, 3 Titles)
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36166 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:32 pm to
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Iowa fans are trying to claim they have one of the toughest schedules in the country.


Every computer says they do, FWIW.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:54 pm to
The lsu/florida would be different......anyone watching it could tell they were protecting him. Your right, they have a problem at receiver. It doesn't matter though, we have faced some of the worse defenses of the sec (save florida) and we cannot move the ball. Our offense sucks......I didn't mean it as they would have scored a lot more points but they probably would have scored 10 more to be honest if he was healthy.
Posted by Leonides
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:57 pm to
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The guy is not talking about the 07 offense, he is talking about this years offense which sucks.......quit talking about the past. This is the now and we haven't beaten anyone. Your probably one of the fans who thinks losing by 10 to an obviously different tebow than what we are used to was a moral victory, we have beaten terrible sec teams. If he didn't have that concussion it is a different game.


LSU hasn't beaten anyone? Who is "anyone"? Who the hell has Iowa beaten? Besides Florida, Alabama and Texas, who else has seperated themselves at this point?

The schedules are made years in advance. Within those schedules, LSU is required to play all of its SEC West opponents plus three from the SEC East. Is it LSU's fault that UGA and Auburn are down a little this year? Is it LSU's fault that Washington and Ms. State are improved? LSU is playing the teams set on its schedule and right now LSU stands at 7-1 and still controls its own destiny. How many other teams in the country besides Florida, Alabama and Texas can say that? Not even Iowa can say that because if LSU wins out, then I guarantee you LSU will jump Iowa even if Iowa finishes undefeated.

And, no, I am not a fan who believes the performance against Florida was a moral victory. But I also don't think losing to the number one team in the country is a disgrace or that it makes our team suck or that it ruins the season. Unlike you, I believe LSU has a lot left to play for and the ability to achieve those goals.

If you think LSU sucks so much and Iowa is a better program, then switch your allegiance to Iowa. You think LSU sucks at 7-1? Then you are really in for a disappointment if you think Iowa can match LSU's success year in and year out in football.
This post was edited on 11/3/09 at 10:04 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:06 pm to
I never said LSU completely sucks and I don't think iowa is a better program. I was just saying to keep to the point.....someone is trying to talk about this year but you can't keep to it because you can't say much. This isn't about who has seperated themselves or anything. The only reason we control our destiny is because we haven't played bama or arky yet. I hope we win out and go to the secCG, I really do. We do have a lot left to play for but I just can see the writing on the wall. The offense has had its chances against terrible defenses and hasn't done much, the only reason we have the record we do is because of our defense. That is the truth......if you can't handle it keep talking about 07, which btw wouldn't have been our title if not for Dennis Dixon going down. That is also the truth. I love lsu but I am not going to make myself believe something that is false.

On that note I hope we beat bama in the worse way, they are ripe for a loss if our offense can do something. I believe in our defense.....

btw......Iowa has beaten three ranked teams so far. That doesn't mean they are the greatest but only one other team can say that, Oregon...who I believe is the hottest team in football and can beat anyone right now.
This post was edited on 11/3/09 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Leonides
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
1270 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:09 pm to
Ok, I will keep to the point. If LSU were to play Iowa this year, then LSU would win by at least two touchdowns. Guaranteed.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

Ok, I will keep to the point. If LSU were to play Iowa this year, then LSU would win by at least two touchdowns. Guaranteed.



To be honest with you I don't believe that, I think it would be much closer but only because of our lack of offense. If JJ was in his second full season I would believe it. Iowa has a defense, may not be the fastest but they can play a little. Give them a little credit.

btw......Oregon will curbstomp them in the rose bowl if they make it. It will be worse than two touchdowns.
Posted by wil
Member since Nov 2006
654 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:24 pm to
LSU has one of the best defenses in the country. The offense appears to be improving. LSU has destroyed it's last 4 bowl opponents, in large part because they couldn't begin to deal with our wide receivers. I heard the same nonsense from Miami, ND, tOSU, and Ga Tech fans. Big 10 teams generally do not do well in bowl games against quality opponents. The Big Ten has not won a Rose Bowl since 1999. Do you really think they would have done better against the SEC champion in the last 10 years. Why is the Big Ten so against a playoff? Yeah, right, the Rose Bowl is so important. Or maybe you wouldn't see another team in the Championship game for quite a while.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:29 pm to
Iowa reminds me of that NYJets team a few years back that started 8-0 and won in the absolute ugliest fashion imaginable.

They finished 10-6 and did not make the playoffs, I believe.

The Jetitazation of Iowa is about to begin.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:32 pm to
Iowa is definately going to drop a game.....OSU should beat them. Out of all of the teams that are undefeated they are the least of my worries.
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