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Alabama's wildcat
Posted on 10/28/09 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 10/28/09 at 12:43 pm
Easily their most succesful formation against Tennessee. They were getting 8-9 yards a pop every time they ran it. The majority of Ingrams successful runs where from the wildcat. What does Chavis do differently next week to stop this formation/play?
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Posted on 10/28/09 at 12:47 pm to lsugradman
Study Bama's tendencies when they run it. Likely some misdirection involved. Work on disciplined defensive attack and coverage. Minimize the effectiveness. Difficult to completely shut down.
The Saints did a decent job against Miami but even with that look at what the Dolphins were able to do. What I wrote above is from a Saints article I read a week or 2 ago when they were preparing for Miami. Wish I knew where that link was.
The Saints did a decent job against Miami but even with that look at what the Dolphins were able to do. What I wrote above is from a Saints article I read a week or 2 ago when they were preparing for Miami. Wish I knew where that link was.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 12:48 pm to lsugradman
Blitz, duh. Blitzing solves everything on defense.
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Posted on 10/28/09 at 12:50 pm to lsugradman
Why is the Wildcat so successful? Why can't defenses stop that crap? I don't get it... it's not like they're going to pass.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 12:51 pm to LsuTool
Well obviously one thing to do would be to bring the safeties up in the box and move the CBs off the line in man coverage on the WRs. The chances of them throwing out of that formation are slim. I was just wondering if theres anything differently we do with our LBs or possibly slant with the DL to slow the wildcat down.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 12:57 pm to Rex
quote:Extra dedicated blockers in the game and misdirection....at least that is what Sean Payton says.
Why is the Wildcat so successful? Why can't defenses stop that crap? I don't get it... it's not like they're going to pass.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 12:57 pm to lsugradman
Study GT game. Wildcat is not much different. Cover areas, not people and we will be okay. We definitely have the athletes to get to Ingram and GMac!
Posted on 10/28/09 at 12:59 pm to JermStone
Yeah you have extra blockers with QB lined up out wide. Then you have backside OL pulling around at point of attack, plus usually a FB as well. Add in a little misdirection to that with a guy coming in motion and its a tough task for any defense.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:03 pm to lsugradman
Then, why the hell don't we run it that way if it's so tough to stop?
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:05 pm to TigerStuckinOkieland
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Then, why the hell don't we run it that way if it's so tough to stop?
I've been wondering that since last yr. Well first I had to wonder when we'd ever actually run it.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:07 pm to TigerStuckinOkieland
Containment problems and overpursuit are what makes it hard to stop. Players have to be patient and make their reads and stick to their assigents. Many times I see players get out of position because they aren't patient. Stay patient and the wildcat can be stopped.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:07 pm to ATLTiger
Mark Ingram is a beast. We dont currently have anyone on our roster with his combination of speed moves and power. We also havent found a dependable FB yet, maybe Allen is up to the task. I think Shep has done pretty well out of this formation at times.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:09 pm to lsugradman
I'm not too worried about it, LSU had to defend a pretty good rushing offense that florida ran. Tebow is sort of like a runningback in the shotgun, Chavis bought in the safeties and played man to man on the receivers, LSU will prob do something similar against bama.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:13 pm to josh336
True but Floridas running game has more misdirection and speed to it. When Bama runs their wildcat theres very little misdirection they pretty much come right at you with the house. I think extra men and possibly a backside LB or safety blitz might be the most effective at slowing it down.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 3:05 pm to lsugradman
I think the second half the Saints shadowed Ronnie Brown, so that worked. I think they put Vilma on him when they ran the wildcat. We should have Jones or Coleman on Ingram.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 3:09 pm to Weaver
Also think the Saints ran alot of run blitzes off the edge with safeties and CBs to get behind the blockers and cut Brown down before he got going downfield. I expect us to do something similar.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 3:29 pm to lsugradman
Screw the QB at wide out. He isnt going to do shite. Ingram isnt going to pass it.
You BLITZ THE frick out of the pussycat!!!
You BLITZ THE frick out of the pussycat!!!
Posted on 10/28/09 at 3:35 pm to lsugradman
quote:From NFL writer about the Saints
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Defensively, coordinator Gregg Williams had a masterful game plan against the Dolphins' famed Wildcat offense. Whenever running back Ronnie Brown went into the shotgun formation, the Saints blitzed defensive backs, often sending cornerbacks Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter off the edge. This strategy caused major problems for the Dolphins' blocking scheme, who had not accounted for the "corner fires" and the Dolphins never adjusted. Surprisingly, the Dolphins only tried to counter this strategy once, by having Brown pass downfield.
The Saints also aligned blitz specialist, strong safety Roman Harper, in the box and sent him into the backfield often.
The result was perhaps the most effective Wildcat defense the league has seen all season. Miami, which entered the game averaging 7.1 yards on 47 Wildcat plays, was held to 27 yards on 14 snaps from the formation. Their longest play was an 8-yard run. The Saints' blitz tactics resulted in four tackles for losses
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the Saints figured it out. Why dont we try what they did? Sub PP in place of Roman and Dread of Doom for Porter and stuff ingram. Make him HAVE to throw.
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Defensively, coordinator Gregg Williams had a masterful game plan against the Dolphins' famed Wildcat offense. Whenever running back Ronnie Brown went into the shotgun formation, the Saints blitzed defensive backs, often sending cornerbacks Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter off the edge. This strategy caused major problems for the Dolphins' blocking scheme, who had not accounted for the "corner fires" and the Dolphins never adjusted. Surprisingly, the Dolphins only tried to counter this strategy once, by having Brown pass downfield.
The Saints also aligned blitz specialist, strong safety Roman Harper, in the box and sent him into the backfield often.
The result was perhaps the most effective Wildcat defense the league has seen all season. Miami, which entered the game averaging 7.1 yards on 47 Wildcat plays, was held to 27 yards on 14 snaps from the formation. Their longest play was an 8-yard run. The Saints' blitz tactics resulted in four tackles for losses
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the Saints figured it out. Why dont we try what they did? Sub PP in place of Roman and Dread of Doom for Porter and stuff ingram. Make him HAVE to throw.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 4:13 pm to CorieJanes Dad
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Sub PP in place of Roman and Dread of Doom for Porter and stuff ingram
you want to sub a CB for a Safety and a Safety for a CB?
Posted on 10/28/09 at 4:18 pm to lsugradman
CJ3 ought to be up close
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