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How can JaMarcus be labeled a bust when this is happening?

Posted on 10/5/09 at 6:46 am
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 6:46 am
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The results were predictable, if not favorable, for the Raiders. Russell completed 12 of 33 passes for 128 yards, was sacked twice and lost a fumble.


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He could use some help along the way, no doubt. Wide receivers Darrius Heyward-Bey, Louis Murphy and Todd Watkins exacerbated the matter by dropping or mishandling several catchable throws.

"We counted nine dropped balls," Cable said



9 drops out of 33 passes? fricking horrible

He had another 12 yard completion erased after a false start penalty

So 10 of his 34 passing plays were complete frick ups through no fault of his own

JR isn't playing the best, but his receivers are not helping him out at all.

So I guess for those calling JR a bust: no rushing attack + no o-line + receivers that can't catch = JR is a bust

Al Davis needs to die
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 6:59 am to
Because he's the QB and #1 pick

I agree with you, but that's how it is
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:13 am to
They have good running backs, just to be fair. Their offense sucks in every other regard though. I really wish he would have gone to a competitive team. If he had been put in a situation like Ben Roth. was, he would be doing much much better.
Posted by DallasTiger
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:24 am to
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If he had been put in a situation like Ben Roth. was, he would be doing much much better.


But there's a reason teams like Pittsburgh (and the Pats, Giants, etc.) are successful over time. They make good decisions on personnel. I don't believe any of those teams would have drafted JR (or at least not drafted him in the first round).

Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:13 am to
Mike Lombardi has some classic raiders draft room stories and he said not too long ago on one of the espn shows that he was told everyone in the room wanted crabtree then Davis said "the pick is the maryland kid" and walked out
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:15 am to
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I don't believe any of those teams would have drafted JR (or at least not drafted him in the first round).


They ALL had him rated higher than big ben coming out. It's easy to say that now, but you can't say that Pitt would not have drafted him. That is just fricking stupid.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:17 am to
What's your excuse for the other two dreadful seasons? What's his completion percentage? Something in the 40s? You going to argue that's because of drops?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:19 am to
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9 drops out of 33 passes? fricking horrible

He had another 12 yard completion erased after a false start penalty


he also had a catch ruled out of bounds when the receiver was clearly in bounds. he was hurried on just about every snap yesterday. a lot of those incompletions were from jamarcus throwing the ball away instead of trying to force it to his shitty receivers. anyone who actually watched the game yesterday knows that it wasn't on him at all.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:21 am to
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What's your excuse for the other two dreadful seasons?


You mean his rookie season where he only played in like 3 games? Or last year where he had a higher passer rating than both matt ryan and joe flacco the last 7 weeks of the season? Why do you people talk about shite you don't understand?
Posted by SprintFun
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:24 am to
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Or last year where he had a higher passer rating than both matt ryan and joe flacco the last 7 weeks of the season? Why do you people talk about shite you don't understand?


Oh, so the other games last season don't count? I see how that works
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:25 am to
SPEEDY, go ask Kenny Pointer what he told JM his last year at LSU. It was true then as it is now.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:28 am to
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everyone in the room wanted crabtree then Davis said "the pick is the maryland kid" and walked out



Posted by SPEEDY
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:30 am to
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what he told JM his last year at LSU



which was?
Posted by Walt OReilly
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:32 am to
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go ask Kenny Pointer what he told JM his last year at LSU


??
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:36 am to
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Oh, so the other games last season don't count? I see how that works


No, but the last 7 weeks, when he had a 85 qb rating, ended the fricking season of his first year as a starting qb. You figure it out.

You are just the typical douche who wants to throw stones without looking at the big picture, which is really a pet peeve of mine. He has the worst set of starting WR's I have ever seen. Name a group worse than Heward-Bey and Louis Murphey. You can't. There is no QB in the NFL that would be successful in Oakland right now. His 1st two games were terrible. He was not accurate. Yesterday he was very accurate and made good decisions, but you wouldn't know because of the stat sheet. 9 dropped passes? You want to simply dismiss that? How much do you know about football besides 3 yards and a cloud of dust?
Posted by ynnhoj316
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:40 am to
JaMarcus sucks on the NFL level. If he didn't go to LSU, you would agree.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:43 am to
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JaMarcus sucks on the NFL level. If he didn't go to LSU, you would agree.


So you think he would be that bad for another team? I don't.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:48 am to
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How much do you know about football besides 3 yards and a cloud of dust?




I love when arguments are reduced to pot shots at the university I attended - that REALLY proves something!

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Yesterday he was very accurate and made good decisions, but you wouldn't know because of the stat sheet. 9 dropped passes?


Good for him. Can he continue his accuracy for two weeks? Three weeks? My money would be on "no".

One game magically erases the first 3?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87520 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:49 am to
it is all Jruss's fault
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15856 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:53 am to
What a total shite show that "organization" is. I wonder if the league has any authority to intervene.
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