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does baton rouge/lsu dislike new orleans/saints?
Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:01 pm
ok i was on a saints forum and poll from the advocate was posted that asked if you approved of Jindal's proposed deal with the saints LINK and currently the results are 52% yes, 43% no, and 5% unsure...this started a debate about whether baton rouge residents hate the city of new orleans and the saints, which i thought was ridiculous. but many of the people on that forum are under the impression that it is some age old truth that baton rouge people and lsu fans think anything that doesn't benefit lsu isnt worth funding or somethin like that, so i wanted to pose the question on the rant and see what yall think?
Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:03 pm to moubre4
BR/LSU and NO/Saints are a lot of the same people FWIW.
The only difference is the priority. The majority of people in Louisiana put LSU first and the Saints second, but there is a nice contingent that puts the Saints first and LSU second. That said, it's all the same group of people.
The only difference is the priority. The majority of people in Louisiana put LSU first and the Saints second, but there is a nice contingent that puts the Saints first and LSU second. That said, it's all the same group of people.
This post was edited on 5/3/09 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:06 pm to moubre4
id put more blame on north la for those numbers. Some of the saints fans that are only saints fans do push others away with silly ideas though.
Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:34 pm to moubre4
Are you kidding?!!! I love the Saints, but they are second to LSU.
STILL BIG SAINTS FAN, just bigger LSU fan.
STILL BIG SAINTS FAN, just bigger LSU fan.
Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:38 pm to moubre4
anyone against that deal has to be either clueless or brain dead. It was a win-win for both parties
Posted on 5/3/09 at 2:01 pm to moubre4
Most LSU fans like myself are huge Saints fans... but I think the opposite is not reciprocal! I live in BR, so it's cheaper & easier to attend LSU games. The city of New Orleans should be thankful the state supports the Saints!
Posted on 5/3/09 at 2:04 pm to moubre4
I grew up in Baton Rouge as a huge Saints fan. So were all of my friends. That being said, there are quite a few BR folks who have idiotic zero-sum mentalities about LSU sports and by extension the Saints.
The Manships, who own the Advocate, are clearly in this mold. They publish editorials ripping the Saints every time an opportunity presents itself.
But they aren't representatives of everyone outside of New Orleans.
The Manships, who own the Advocate, are clearly in this mold. They publish editorials ripping the Saints every time an opportunity presents itself.
But they aren't representatives of everyone outside of New Orleans.
Posted on 5/3/09 at 2:53 pm to moubre4
Can't speak for the BR/NO thing, but I've been a lifelong suffering Saints fan, and always will be.
This post was edited on 5/3/09 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 5/3/09 at 3:04 pm to moubre4
I think the big picture, as someone else stated, is that while almost all of Louisiana (minus masybe Shreveport and North Louisiana's Cowboy whores) support the Saints just as much as the next guy, their priorities are more about things that directly affect them. More specifically education and health care.
In the end, I love the Saints and will support them as long as they are in NOLA, but despite their potential income into the state, we shouldn't be handcuffing the state financially when there are much more critical problems at hand.
In the end, I love the Saints and will support them as long as they are in NOLA, but despite their potential income into the state, we shouldn't be handcuffing the state financially when there are much more critical problems at hand.
Posted on 5/3/09 at 3:07 pm to moubre4
Always been and LSU and a Saints fan and in that order. Maybe the issue has to do more with the fact that the state (the taxpayer) is subsidizing a private business that pays its employees (atheletes) millions of dollars per year, has a pretty good lease deal on the Dome and still charges its fans, patrons, customers, etc. a lot of money for three hours of entertainment. Don't know, just throwin' out a possibility.
Posted on 5/3/09 at 3:09 pm to moubre4
LSU will never leave. The Saints will leave if we don't give them enough money. That alone should dictate your loyalty priorities.
Posted on 5/3/09 at 3:47 pm to moubre4
im not mad about the deal at all. i always hated the fact the every other year benson would threaten to move the team. now they have them locked up til 2025. but i can understand why people not from nola are pissed. they see politicians all the time doing for new olreans and not other areas of the state.
my mom is from nola and my dad is from avoyelles, so i've heard both sides before.
my mom is from nola and my dad is from avoyelles, so i've heard both sides before.
Posted on 5/3/09 at 5:07 pm to moubre4
I live and die with LSU.
I couldn't care less about the NO saints.
I dont know all the players, further more usually dont know who they are playing until I happen to catch them on TV on sundays or sportcenter during the week.
I dont give damn what yall say... not all, but a big part of the folks that consider themselves saints fans are different crowd.
I noticed it during the saints games in NOLA I have atteneded and damn sure noticed the trashy fricks when they played in BR couple years ago.
I couldn't care less about the NO saints.
I dont know all the players, further more usually dont know who they are playing until I happen to catch them on TV on sundays or sportcenter during the week.
I dont give damn what yall say... not all, but a big part of the folks that consider themselves saints fans are different crowd.
I noticed it during the saints games in NOLA I have atteneded and damn sure noticed the trashy fricks when they played in BR couple years ago.
Posted on 5/3/09 at 7:22 pm to moubre4
I am from north LA and love LSU....I used to love the saints too, until Benson pulled his bullshite during the hurricane....I still pull for them, but no longer watch them every sunday like I did for decades...
to be clear, I don't think there is a big connection between liking the saints and the numbers the numbers that you posted.....I like the saints, but am not in favor of making the benson family richer while the state ponders budget cuts...
to be clear, I don't think there is a big connection between liking the saints and the numbers the numbers that you posted.....I like the saints, but am not in favor of making the benson family richer while the state ponders budget cuts...
Posted on 5/4/09 at 7:25 am to moubre4
Getting back to the original question, the year after Katrina when the Saints played 4 home games in TS, the attendance was abysmal. I had always thought that LSU and Saints fans came from the same group of people, but I doubted it after those games. I also remember people on the Rant who were furious that LSU was allowing the Saints to play in TS, because they were going to ruin the field for the LSU games (and there were quite a few of people with this view... not just a minority).
So the overall sentiment of this thread is that LSU fans are mostly Saints fans, but the evidence I've seen doesn't necessarily support that.
So the overall sentiment of this thread is that LSU fans are mostly Saints fans, but the evidence I've seen doesn't necessarily support that.
Posted on 5/5/09 at 10:26 am to moubre4
i don't really dislike or like the saints...i'll pull for them i guess, but could care less if they lose a game
as far as lsu goes, my night's borderline ruined if lsu loses...basically i'm a huge lsu fan, and couldn't care less about the saints
but a guy i know, from LA, is a very big saints fan, and hates lsu...hates with a passion...i really believe that it's just penis envy b/c lsu has had recent success, and the saints really haven't, at least to the extent of lsu. it's sad though, b/c he makes me hate the saints and pull against them simply b/c he pulls so hard against lsu
it was funny though, after the '03 season, this guy became a huge usc fan, and apparantly is still to this day...it's pretty pathetic
as far as lsu goes, my night's borderline ruined if lsu loses...basically i'm a huge lsu fan, and couldn't care less about the saints
but a guy i know, from LA, is a very big saints fan, and hates lsu...hates with a passion...i really believe that it's just penis envy b/c lsu has had recent success, and the saints really haven't, at least to the extent of lsu. it's sad though, b/c he makes me hate the saints and pull against them simply b/c he pulls so hard against lsu
it was funny though, after the '03 season, this guy became a huge usc fan, and apparantly is still to this day...it's pretty pathetic
This post was edited on 5/5/09 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/5/09 at 10:44 am to moubre4
My Father is from New Orleans and my mother is from Plaquemine (the city not the parish). I live in New Orleans (and don't want to live anywhere else). I don't see how passion for college football team changes passion for a pro team. They don't compete against each other and I've never had to choose going one teams game or watching one team over another. That being said... from my experience I have noticed that North Louisiana baptists are distrustful of South Louisiana Catholics and vice versa. Lafayette is jealous of Baton Rouge. And the whole state views NOLA as a crazy old aunt thats does just about anything she wants to no matter how embarrassing to the rest of the family.
Posted on 5/5/09 at 12:07 pm to moubre4
There does seem to be a bit of rivalry directed from Baton Rouge and rural Lousiana towards the city of New Orleans
Some of it seems political or cultural - I guess some is historical
Some of it seems political or cultural - I guess some is historical
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