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does baton rouge/lsu dislike new orleans/saints?

Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:01 pm
Posted by moubre4
LSUSD
Member since Dec 2007
46 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:01 pm
ok i was on a saints forum and poll from the advocate was posted that asked if you approved of Jindal's proposed deal with the saints LINK and currently the results are 52% yes, 43% no, and 5% unsure...this started a debate about whether baton rouge residents hate the city of new orleans and the saints, which i thought was ridiculous. but many of the people on that forum are under the impression that it is some age old truth that baton rouge people and lsu fans think anything that doesn't benefit lsu isnt worth funding or somethin like that, so i wanted to pose the question on the rant and see what yall think?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26335 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:03 pm to
BR/LSU and NO/Saints are a lot of the same people FWIW.

The only difference is the priority. The majority of people in Louisiana put LSU first and the Saints second, but there is a nice contingent that puts the Saints first and LSU second. That said, it's all the same group of people.
This post was edited on 5/3/09 at 1:05 pm
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:06 pm to
id put more blame on north la for those numbers. Some of the saints fans that are only saints fans do push others away with silly ideas though.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
7634 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:34 pm to
Are you kidding?!!! I love the Saints, but they are second to LSU.

STILL BIG SAINTS FAN, just bigger LSU fan.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 1:38 pm to
anyone against that deal has to be either clueless or brain dead. It was a win-win for both parties
Posted by SloMeaux
Member since Sep 2004
23134 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 2:01 pm to
Most LSU fans like myself are huge Saints fans... but I think the opposite is not reciprocal! I live in BR, so it's cheaper & easier to attend LSU games. The city of New Orleans should be thankful the state supports the Saints!
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11276 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 2:04 pm to
I grew up in Baton Rouge as a huge Saints fan. So were all of my friends. That being said, there are quite a few BR folks who have idiotic zero-sum mentalities about LSU sports and by extension the Saints.

The Manships, who own the Advocate, are clearly in this mold. They publish editorials ripping the Saints every time an opportunity presents itself.

But they aren't representatives of everyone outside of New Orleans.
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
5828 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 2:53 pm to
Can't speak for the BR/NO thing, but I've been a lifelong suffering Saints fan, and always will be.
This post was edited on 5/3/09 at 2:54 pm
Posted by GeauxBob
Member since Sep 2008
2904 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 3:04 pm to
I think the big picture, as someone else stated, is that while almost all of Louisiana (minus masybe Shreveport and North Louisiana's Cowboy whores) support the Saints just as much as the next guy, their priorities are more about things that directly affect them. More specifically education and health care.

In the end, I love the Saints and will support them as long as they are in NOLA, but despite their potential income into the state, we shouldn't be handcuffing the state financially when there are much more critical problems at hand.
Posted by Hoodatt
Member since Feb 2005
2603 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 3:07 pm to
Always been and LSU and a Saints fan and in that order. Maybe the issue has to do more with the fact that the state (the taxpayer) is subsidizing a private business that pays its employees (atheletes) millions of dollars per year, has a pretty good lease deal on the Dome and still charges its fans, patrons, customers, etc. a lot of money for three hours of entertainment. Don't know, just throwin' out a possibility.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 3:09 pm to
LSU will never leave. The Saints will leave if we don't give them enough money. That alone should dictate your loyalty priorities.
Posted by lsudupont82
The Avoyelles Parish
Member since Nov 2007
5112 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 3:47 pm to
im not mad about the deal at all. i always hated the fact the every other year benson would threaten to move the team. now they have them locked up til 2025. but i can understand why people not from nola are pissed. they see politicians all the time doing for new olreans and not other areas of the state.

my mom is from nola and my dad is from avoyelles, so i've heard both sides before.
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 5:07 pm to
I live and die with LSU.

I couldn't care less about the NO saints.
I dont know all the players, further more usually dont know who they are playing until I happen to catch them on TV on sundays or sportcenter during the week.

I dont give damn what yall say... not all, but a big part of the folks that consider themselves saints fans are different crowd.

I noticed it during the saints games in NOLA I have atteneded and damn sure noticed the trashy fricks when they played in BR couple years ago.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56119 posts
Posted on 5/3/09 at 7:22 pm to
I am from north LA and love LSU....I used to love the saints too, until Benson pulled his bullshite during the hurricane....I still pull for them, but no longer watch them every sunday like I did for decades...

to be clear, I don't think there is a big connection between liking the saints and the numbers the numbers that you posted.....I like the saints, but am not in favor of making the benson family richer while the state ponders budget cuts...
Posted by jholme9
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2004
411 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 7:25 am to
Getting back to the original question, the year after Katrina when the Saints played 4 home games in TS, the attendance was abysmal. I had always thought that LSU and Saints fans came from the same group of people, but I doubted it after those games. I also remember people on the Rant who were furious that LSU was allowing the Saints to play in TS, because they were going to ruin the field for the LSU games (and there were quite a few of people with this view... not just a minority).

So the overall sentiment of this thread is that LSU fans are mostly Saints fans, but the evidence I've seen doesn't necessarily support that.

Posted by BobbyGoulet
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
3705 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 10:26 am to
i don't really dislike or like the saints...i'll pull for them i guess, but could care less if they lose a game

as far as lsu goes, my night's borderline ruined if lsu loses...basically i'm a huge lsu fan, and couldn't care less about the saints

but a guy i know, from LA, is a very big saints fan, and hates lsu...hates with a passion...i really believe that it's just penis envy b/c lsu has had recent success, and the saints really haven't, at least to the extent of lsu. it's sad though, b/c he makes me hate the saints and pull against them simply b/c he pulls so hard against lsu

it was funny though, after the '03 season, this guy became a huge usc fan, and apparantly is still to this day...it's pretty pathetic
This post was edited on 5/5/09 at 10:28 am
Posted by Bayouphi
Mid City
Member since Sep 2003
718 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 10:44 am to
My Father is from New Orleans and my mother is from Plaquemine (the city not the parish). I live in New Orleans (and don't want to live anywhere else). I don't see how passion for college football team changes passion for a pro team. They don't compete against each other and I've never had to choose going one teams game or watching one team over another. That being said... from my experience I have noticed that North Louisiana baptists are distrustful of South Louisiana Catholics and vice versa. Lafayette is jealous of Baton Rouge. And the whole state views NOLA as a crazy old aunt thats does just about anything she wants to no matter how embarrassing to the rest of the family.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36146 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 12:07 pm to
There does seem to be a bit of rivalry directed from Baton Rouge and rural Lousiana towards the city of New Orleans

Some of it seems political or cultural - I guess some is historical
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