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re: James Laurinitis

Posted on 1/25/09 at 1:33 am to
Posted by lsubeer
Denver
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Posted by Six Saint
Cypress, TX
Member since Aug 2007
925 posts
Posted on 1/25/09 at 9:55 am to
No, he was not playing outside, he was playing in a 3-4 Defense. Totally different. Several scouts say that laurinitas can play inside or outside. It's like Ruben Randle playing QB for his team this year. In high school and college, players are often playing where they are needed by the team, that necessarily where they are better adapted for.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:19 am to
I'm not a big fan of his but wouldn't mind him. He looks more like an inside guy but probably could handle WLB. When considering a first round pick however, changing a guys position and hoping for improvement may be possible but usually not the most prudent idea to get the most out of your pick. In this year's case I think we are looking for immediate impact more than project type picks.

I would feel a whole lot better about him at #20 or so downward. I don't see the impact projection to justify #14. A CB like Davis, Smith, or Moore would be much better risk/return picks IMO. The only LBs who grade in the first half of the 1st Rd to me are Curry and Maualuga.

On JL- Go visit some Packer boards. They think Hawk is a wasted pick. Generally rated as "okay" but nowhere near Top 5 status.
I'm not much on using football stats to justify player status either. Running up numbers against Big 10 schools doesn't mean much. Ya gotta use your eyes. Graham Harrel ran up some big numbers but looked pathetic last night against all upper crust competition.
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I didn't realize Florida, LSU, USC, Texas, Michigan 3 times, Penn St., Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, & Mich. St. were pitiful opponents

uh, the only thing is in those games (when playing top competitors) they lost 41-14 FU, 38-24 LSU, 35-3 USC, 24-21 TX, 13-6 PNST. Michigan HAS turned pitiful to rebuild. Ill, Iowa, Wisc, Mich St, couldn't compete with the big boys either. More like SC, Kentucky, ot TN in the SEC the last few years.

Trading down really seems ideal this year. best case value falling meeting need to me would be if one of the Top 4 OT's made it to #14. Raji might be a cannot say no choice there too. Ellis 'n he could have Vikings Williams x2 or former jags duo of henderson/Stroud potential.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56666 posts
Posted on 1/25/09 at 1:52 pm to
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Ok you flaming frick stick. Ever hear of Brian Urlacher? Do you know what position he played in college? Do you know what round he was drafted in? The point is a versatile great football player can change from inside to outside or visa versa & not miss a beat. Why be such a prick? All anyone has to do is check out your previous posts to know you are nothing more than a shite stirring moron. Now go F... yourself.


The Bears drafted Urlacher at LB because they thought his best position was a LB. They didn't draft a safety and decide that he could also play LB.

Another quality post.

FYI, I don't dislike you GG. I hope good things happen to you. Keep working hard, and maybe things will turn up to the point where you can afford to make it to LSU's next big game.
Posted by Gridiron Guru
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
1441 posts
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:25 pm to
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The Bears drafted Urlacher at LB because they thought his best position was a LB
Thanks for confirming my point dick face.
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Another quality post.
Speaking of quality posts
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Keep working hard, and maybe things will turn up to the point where you can afford to make it to LSU's next big game.
As I stated before in this thread before you decided to jump on board & start your shite, I was at the last NC game & would have been at the 04' NC game, but I was already working hard so I could afford to go to the NC game in 08' by buying tickets from a legitimate broker instead of an ameteur thief like yourself.
Posted by Gridiron Guru
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
1441 posts
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:37 pm to
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changing a guys position and hoping for improvement may be possible but usually not the most prudent idea to get the most out of your pick. In this year's case I think we are looking for immediate impact more than project type picks.
Good post. I have stated my case fro JL & think he will be able to step in & make an immediate positive impact. Only time will tell on that.
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A CB like Davis, Smith, or Moore would be much better risk/return picks IMO. The only LBs who grade in the first half of the 1st Rd to me are Curry and Maualuga.
You can only say that if you are not of the belief that we must sign Vilma at MLB, because Maualuga will only be a great LB in the middle & then I believe in a 3-4 scheme.
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Graham Harrel ran up some big numbers but looked pathetic last night against all upper crust competition
That reenforces my point about JL. He put up great stats against top competition, even when his team didn't show up.
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Raji might be a cannot say no choice there too. Ellis 'n he could have Vikings Williams x2 or former jags duo of henderson/Stroud potential.
If the Saints do trade down & can't get JL, I would rather see them get Peria Jerry. He was a manster in the SB & while they talked up Baji he didn't make a single play against the South's OL.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64354 posts
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:47 pm to
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Member since Jan 2009




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PDJ4LSU


I'm so glad you joined this board

Posted by stowns
BR
Member since Dec 2006
1985 posts
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:49 pm to
cause if we pick an ILB we have to choose between an tOSU guy, or a USC guy...
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72094 posts
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:51 pm to
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He had a BCS record 18 tackles in that game & had it not been for him LSU would have rung up 70 points on OSU


the quietest 18 tackles ever

all he did was jump on and ride jacob hester down after he picked up 6 yards

the other LB freeman was a stud though
Posted by Gridiron Guru
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
1441 posts
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:52 pm to
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the other LB freeman was a stud though
Sorry Cuz, Freeman got knocked around by Quinn Johnson last night.
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6935 posts
Posted on 1/26/09 at 4:12 am to
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Laurinitis could not cover LSU's TE, Richard Dickson, in the '07 National Championship Game. What is he going to do against top-flight NFL caliber players?



That s serious question? Dickson will be playing on Sundays... book it.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56666 posts
Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:01 am to
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Thanks for confirming my point dick face.


That wasn't your point.

Your point was that we should spend top dollar on Vilma, and play him out of position. Here is your quote:

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Who says Vilma has to play the middle? Conventional thinking, which is the only thing Groundhog Day Gibbs was any good at, says a guy has to play a certain position a certain way. That is what losers do.


You then attempted to point out that San Diego drafting Gates was evidence to support your opinion. Of course, Gates wasn't a high draft pick (you didn't realize this) and wasn't even a draft pick at all (you didn't realize this either).

My point is that it would be pretty risky/dumb to invest top dollar in a free agent and play him out of position...or similarly, spend a first round pick on a guy and immediately play him out of position.

You can disagree with that if you want, but at least try to keep up with what the argument is.

As for the other crap, I find it funny that you are still insulted that some people wanted to charge market value for tickets (like myself) when those people paid market value to obtain those tickets...as if you were special and were above it. We all know it was about money. We all know that you just didn't want to/couldn't spend the money. That's ok. I know a lot of people who chose not to spend the money. I hope things turn around for you. Let me know if I can help in any way.
Posted by tmfrosch9
Covington, LA
Member since Oct 2008
27 posts
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:20 pm to
hes to small
Posted by Gridiron Guru
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
1441 posts
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:28 pm to
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Your point was that we should spend top dollar on Vilma, and play him out of position. Here is your quote:
As usual you have taken things completely out of context like the dick you nust insist on being. I said Vilma could play outside or Laurinitis could play outside or for that matter they could play in a two linebacker set with out even needing another LB because they both have so much ability, they can cover tremendous portions of the field. You are the one who insulted their ability by saying they could not, Absolutely COULD NOT play anywhere but where they had played in the past. Like I said before & will say again, you are nothing more than ahit stirring moron & deserve no more replies.
Posted by Gridiron Guru
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
1441 posts
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:30 pm to
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hes to small
He's two inches taller & 15 pouds heavier than Vilma. He is bigger than Lewis. Read previous posts & you will see this guy is a blue chip prime time player.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56666 posts
Posted on 1/26/09 at 11:59 pm to
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As usual you have taken things completely out of context


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I said Vilma could play outside


That's what I said. And, I think it would be dumb to pay Vilma the money he's going to command and then play him outside.

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for that matter they could play in a two linebacker set with out even needing another LB because they both have so much ability


Holy shite.

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You are the one who insulted their ability by saying they could not, Absolutely COULD NOT play anywhere but where they had played in the past.


No, I suggested that if you are going to invest in someone as a first round pick...or a top flight free agent, then they should play at their natural position. If that doesn't fit your team, then the investment should be made elsewhere. It's a pretty reasonable opinion.

For some reason, you seem to have a tough time comprehending this point.
Posted by Gridiron Guru
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
1441 posts
Posted on 1/27/09 at 12:23 am to
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No, I suggested that if you are going to invest in someone as a first round pick...or a top flight free agent, then they should play at their natural position.
& I called you on that dickhead. I pointed out that the Bears drafted Urlacher & moved him to OLB 1st then MLB when he had played safety/ return man at New Mexico. How the frick could they know he would end up being an all pro MLB? They just knew he was a natural athelete & should be on the football field. One would naturally think that it would be a HELL of a lot easier moving from MLB to OLB than from safety in college to MLB in the pros. The bottom line is you are shithead that saw my thread & wanted to stir shite. You don't really care about the Saints or these players & just want to act like you know something when you don't know shite form shinolla. Now go frick yourself & stay off the forum until you learn something.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56666 posts
Posted on 1/27/09 at 8:14 am to
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& I called you on that dickhead. I pointed out that the Bears drafted Urlacher


I don't see Laurinitis as having Urlacher type athleticism. Nevertheless, if a team thinks Laurinitis can play two or more positions equally well, the obviously it makes sense to draft him for either position. That is a player specific decision.

However, you seemed to be saying that good players in general can play out of position. I think that is a losing proposition when you consider the amount of cap invested to get these guys.

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The bottom line is you are shithead that saw my thread & wanted to stir shite


You think way too highly of yourself. I posted because you adamantly said that losers don't consider moving Vilma outside. And personally, I think it would be pretty dumb to pay Vilma the money he's going to require and move him outside.

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Not only are you a f...img pig scalper
you are an idiot
you flaming frick stick
are nothing more than a shite stirring moron
Now go F... yourself
Thanks for confirming my point dick face.
like the dick you nust insist on being
you are nothing more than ahit stirring moron
I called you on that dickhead
How the frick
The bottom line is you are shithead
you don't know shite
Now go frick yourself


FYI, these were some of your comments to me simply because I disagreed with your opinion. Aren't you like 50 years old or something? How is it that you are not embarrassed? And you wonder why you don't make enough money to afford LSU tickets?

It's because you are a classless, uneducated little man who can't have an argument without sounding like trash.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32987 posts
Posted on 1/27/09 at 9:23 am to
Vilma is a MLB. He doesn't play as well out of position and he doesn't want to play OLB. Why for the Love of God do you people keep insisting on making him an OLBer???

As for Laurinitis,
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He can't shed blocks/isn't physical enough to play in the middle. I think he may be a solid WLB in the NFL, but I don't think he's worth the 14th pick.



:I agree with this:
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18773 posts
Posted on 1/27/09 at 9:36 am to
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-NFL Fans in SEC Country don't get to see many Big 10 games so they don't see Big 10 LBs all that much, and when they do see them, an SEC School is beating the crap out of a Big 10 defense.


This is true. I don't care how many tackles he had in that game Lester, he gave up an easy score and that's what counts. He has been unable, IMO, to take over in big games. He can do well againt the Slow10 but shite Highsmith looked all world against tOSU.

If we pick him I'll hope for the best, just like I do with Weggie and Meech but they still arent worth the money yet.
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