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Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:42 pm to jose
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I've been toying with the idea about becoming a personal trainer. Just add some extra credibility to my name. I feel like if I get that, I could offer even more to my patients instead of just talking about working out and diet help, I can show them how to properly workout.
For diet- precision nutrition is prolly best for gen pop
For training- cpps from defranco/smith is best, especially for athletes and lifting smart to not get injuries
Starting strength is best for learning to teach lifts
Menno’s PT course is best for physique changes
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:20 am to lsu777
Thank you so much for the detailed advice.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:16 pm to MCYNitro
Start by seeing a doctor that specializes in obesity medicine. Everyone is so quick to offer solutions, but the best obesity MDs start with assessment to individualize treatment AFTER understanding you and your history. Obesity is a disease. You likely have this disease. You have probably tried many times to use will power to overcome this disease with multiple approaches to no avail. Go see a specialist and get on a real path to a sustainably healthier life.
Not everyone that is overweight has the disease of obesity. Some patients with the disease of obesity are capable of overcoming the symptoms of it through will power masquerading as fad diets or “move more eat less” routines. The majority of patients with the disease of obesity are not able to sustainably overcome it(and that is ok).
Everyone should eat healthy, exercise, and follow sound medical advice to treat ANY and ALL diseases that can threaten life or quality of life…to the best of everyone’s ability and access.
Not everyone that is overweight has the disease of obesity. Some patients with the disease of obesity are capable of overcoming the symptoms of it through will power masquerading as fad diets or “move more eat less” routines. The majority of patients with the disease of obesity are not able to sustainably overcome it(and that is ok).
Everyone should eat healthy, exercise, and follow sound medical advice to treat ANY and ALL diseases that can threaten life or quality of life…to the best of everyone’s ability and access.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:04 pm to BawtHouse
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Obesity is a disease.
Sure, I guess. If you call being lazy and a lack of willpower a disease.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:33 pm to BawtHouse
Man look, I’m about as open minded as it comes to the medicines and everything but you can frick right off with the obesity is a disease
You aren’t some special snowflake and neither is the op, the path to losing the weight is simple as shite but hard AF
I know this because I lost more than him
frick off with the disease bullshite though
You aren’t some special snowflake and neither is the op, the path to losing the weight is simple as shite but hard AF
I know this because I lost more than him
frick off with the disease bullshite though
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:47 pm to lsu777
It can be a "disease"
It's just a disease you give to yourself, despite knowing better not to, just like how I "gave" myself a urinary tract infection by sleeping with a girl who was nicknamed "Hatchet Face" when I was a freshman in college. I did that to myself.
I think that's what he's referring to, come to think of it, every single one of my aunts has hypothroidism, but they all gave it to themselves, weird. I gotta ask my mom why she didn't give it to herself too. Seemed pretty easy.
It's just a disease you give to yourself, despite knowing better not to, just like how I "gave" myself a urinary tract infection by sleeping with a girl who was nicknamed "Hatchet Face" when I was a freshman in college. I did that to myself.
I think that's what he's referring to, come to think of it, every single one of my aunts has hypothroidism, but they all gave it to themselves, weird. I gotta ask my mom why she didn't give it to herself too. Seemed pretty easy.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:33 pm to lsu777
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I know this because I lost more than him
Your sample size of 1 doesn’t qualify you to speak on this with any authority whatsoever. “Because I did it, you can do it” is a completely ignorant position to take intellectually, but it has been the old school mentality that has slowed progress with the stigma of this disease. Ignorant. Be better than that. You are clearly smarter than that. If you can swallow enough of your pride and evolve beyond it, you could be a legitimate force for good with the time you put into a public message forum like this. “I beat cancer by doing yoga so you can, too.” Right? “That single anastomosis duodeno–ileal bypass with sleeve gastrectomy worked for me so it will work for everyone else.” Also would be ignorant. Every patient is different. You try to shove everyone into a singular box based on a faulty premise.
You keep picking this hill to die on, but it’s not a debate. You are factually wrong. The AMA classified it as a disease a decade ago. A decade. You need to evolve.
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The issue here, sevens, is pride. You feel I am injuring yours somehow, and you get triggered. And then you react by attacking me. It’s sad, honestly. I’m not taking anything away from what you were able to accomplish with will power. Congrats. Truly happy for you and glad you are living a healthier life. Don’t take it personally. It’s not. Your position lacks a critical understanding of the part of human behavior that is(to varying degrees) driven by chemicals(or chemical imbalances) and not choices or free will. That is where you veer off the correct path and no longer align with science.
I respect that you are trying to help people. I really do. Nothing I have seen you suggest is harmful(also a very small sample size). It just will not work for the vast majority of patients. They’ve tried the traditional approaches that have been failing for decades. Suddenly now those exact same patients(approaching 10 million in the US over the last 12 months) that have been trying a million versions of “move more eat less” and fad diets are immediately having success when their chemical imbalance gets balanced with meds. Let’s compare your sample size of 1(one not one million) to my sample size of close to 10 million.
Go ahead and get triggered, verbal vomit, and attack me from your further injured pride. It won’t change the fact that you are wrong. I won’t respond to you again. Evolve.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:21 am to BawtHouse
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Your sample size of 1 doesn’t qualify you to speak on this with any authority whatsoever. “Because I did it, you can do it” is a completely ignorant position to take intellectually, but it has been the old school mentality that has slowed progress with the stigma of this disease. Ignorant. Be better than that. You are clearly smarter than that. If you can swallow enough of your pride and evolve beyond it, you could be a legitimate force for good with the time you put into a public message forum like this. “I beat cancer by doing yoga so you can, too.” Right? “That single anastomosis duodeno–ileal bypass with sleeve gastrectomy worked for me so it will work for everyone else.” Also would be ignorant. Every patient is different. You try to shove everyone into a singular box based on a faulty premise.
You keep picking this hill to die on, but it’s not a debate. You are factually wrong. The AMA classified it as a disease a decade ago. A decade. You need to evolve.
i have evolved adn the ama does all kinds of stupid shite
1) its a disease if he has a legit medical disorder in the form of a metabolic disorder
if not, the laws of thermodynamics apply, period
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The issue here, sevens, is pride. You feel I am injuring yours somehow, and you get triggered. And then you react by attacking me. It’s sad, honestly. I’m not taking anything away from what you were able to accomplish with will power. Congrats. Truly happy for you and glad you are living a healthier life. Don’t take it personally. It’s not. Your position lacks a critical understanding of the part of human behavior that is(to varying degrees) driven by chemicals(or chemical imbalances) and not choices or free will. That is where you veer off the correct path and no longer align with science.
not even close, ihas nothing to do with pride, has nothing to do with assigning a moralistic view to weight loss
in fact im all for the use of medicine to help people reach their goals. I love better living through science. ifpeopel have food noise, take the glp1
i dont like calling it a disease as it implies that one magically caught a virus that made them fat. it implies that nobody is to blame for being obese and that is simply not true. The laws of thermodynamics do not change, the physical act of how you gain and lose weight do not change person to person
i fully acknowledge that mentally, its different for everyone. and thats where the medicines can help. hormonally it can help too.
but dont call it a disease because it removes the resposibility from the patient. if you want to compare to cancer.....if a person smokes 3 packs a day for 20 years and gets lung cancer, sure its sad, but they did that to themselves. so thing with obesity.
all for using medicines, all for getting blood work done to check and see where we can optimize hormones, metabolic levels etc
but its still not a disease.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:33 am to Mo Jeaux
Sorry to get so many people in my post to bickering with each other. It should not matter to anyone but I will give a little background to my situation just to clarify for all.
1. I spent 22 years in the military and was in the best shape of my life. I was diagnosed with Hypothyroid Disease 8 months after I left the Military. I was gaining weight pretty fast and was not being lazy with fitness. My energy was pretty much gone so i went to see a doctor. Boom Hypothyroid disease. Since then, about 18 years ago I have struggled with weight. I do not eat almost any kind of sweets and my metabolism is damn near nil.
2. Like some of you have said, everyone's reason for gaining weigh or being overweight is not lazy driven. I still officiate high school football and high school baseball, and have for 15 years now.
I am just on this board trying to find some kind of way to get my health back and lose this weight without the pills or shots. I want to do it and make it permanent in my lifestyle. Thanks to all for the advice.
1. I spent 22 years in the military and was in the best shape of my life. I was diagnosed with Hypothyroid Disease 8 months after I left the Military. I was gaining weight pretty fast and was not being lazy with fitness. My energy was pretty much gone so i went to see a doctor. Boom Hypothyroid disease. Since then, about 18 years ago I have struggled with weight. I do not eat almost any kind of sweets and my metabolism is damn near nil.
2. Like some of you have said, everyone's reason for gaining weigh or being overweight is not lazy driven. I still officiate high school football and high school baseball, and have for 15 years now.
I am just on this board trying to find some kind of way to get my health back and lose this weight without the pills or shots. I want to do it and make it permanent in my lifestyle. Thanks to all for the advice.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:39 am to MCYNitro
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I am just on this board trying to find some kind of way to get my health back and lose this weight without the pills or shots. I want to do it and make it permanent in my lifestyle. Thanks to all for the advice.
well you have a thyroid problem, have you fixed that?
what are your hormone levels?
to make this a lifesytle, you are going to have to essentially pick 1 or 2 ways
1) starting counting calories and macros. weigh and track everything
2) pick a style of diet like, keto, carnivore or even intermittent fasting that will naturally have you eating less.
other then that, lift weights and walk. I gave more detailed approach on the first page
can i ask though, why are you so against using glp1 to help lose the weight? sounds like you are late 50s/early 60s,...this isnt the time to take a moralistic viewpoint on losing weight. Doing that and failing is a good way to be dead by 65. You need to decide and talk with your wife, if you have one, about whats important...being able to tell people how you lost the weight and brag or just losing the weight and getting healthy. if its just losing the weight and being healthy for your family, get the damn medicine. dont be prideful.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:02 am to BawtHouse
quote:I think you nailed this part, but not the way you think you did.
The issue here, sevens, is pride.
quote:This is 100% wrong. It’s not even debatable.
Nothing I have seen you suggest is harmful(also a very small sample size). It just will not work for the vast majority of patients.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:58 am to lsu777
lsu777
To tell you the truth man, I have never heard of GLP-1 till I read the comments on the post. I started looking at it yesterday and it seems way less complicated than any pills or shots that I have heard of. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
To tell you the truth man, I have never heard of GLP-1 till I read the comments on the post. I started looking at it yesterday and it seems way less complicated than any pills or shots that I have heard of. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:50 pm to MCYNitro
Obviously tweak or eliminate the foods that raise your blood sugar.
Glycemic Index
Seen a lot of research on walking. Basically, it says if you can walk around 7500 steps / day.
There are many videos. Here's Two: LINK.
LINK
I have an app and try to get that daily. Couple with some upper body work outs. Seems to work.
Glycemic Index
Seen a lot of research on walking. Basically, it says if you can walk around 7500 steps / day.
There are many videos. Here's Two: LINK.
LINK
I have an app and try to get that daily. Couple with some upper body work outs. Seems to work.
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