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re: I quit doing cardio

Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:39 pm to
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When Attia interviewed the San Milan guy (the expert on training cyclists), he stated that 3 hrs of zone 2 was necessary to maintain fitness and that anything above that was adding to fitness levels. 180 mins/ 12 min miles = 15 miles per week. That's not very much.


I've also heard something about cardio effects don't really kick in until around 15-20 minutes to maximize improvements. So if you workout for a half hour cardio session 3-4 days a week, you'd see minimal improvements. But extending that to 45 minutes, you're already in an elevated HR zone, likely zone 2-3, and it may have taken you that 15-20 minutes to get there and sustain it. So you're only adding 15 minutes to your workout time, but all of that is like a bonus, and better than doing a short 15-20 minute cardio based workout on another day. And after you acclimate to that, you stretch it to an hour.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31653 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 6:48 am to
where is the science on this? any studies? sorry i dont take people at because i say, especially guys like attia
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2205 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:20 am to
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I've also heard something about cardio effects don't really kick in until around 15-20 minutes to maximize improvements. So if you workout for a half hour cardio session 3-4 days a week, you'd see minimal improvements. But extending that to 45 minutes, you're already in an elevated HR zone, likely zone 2-3, and it may have taken you that 15-20 minutes to get there and sustain it. So you're only adding 15 minutes to your workout time, but all of that is like a bonus, and better than doing a short 15-20 minute cardio based workout on another day. And after you acclimate to that, you stretch it to an hour.


As a former collegiate strength coach, one of the more frustrating but also fascinating aspects of human adaptation is that they are highly individualistic and also adaptations are never in a vacuum. If even the most learned doctor tells me something so specific, I will be highly skeptical of what they say afterwards.

For myself, ive found that working incline walking into rest times for my lifts have made a huge difference. 30 minutes of walking 5-6 times a week in addition to 5x calisthenics has been incredible for my physique. Its my sweet spot...at my age in my 30s. Who knows how I would have responded in my 20s etc.

The key is trial and error. I know this is cliche but its also everyone's best path for success. Add an input for minimum 2 weeks...see what output you get

**Take-home: A great starting point to cardio is incline walking on treadmill or just terrained walking outside. Start with 20 min/day. You CAN do this during rest times for intense lifts if the walking intensity is low enough but youll have to monitor your performance in your subsequent sets

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