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re: For Those Who Think Russia Will Negotiate
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:06 am to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:06 am to Bunk Moreland
Those leaks were embarrassing for Macron.
Not as much as the German zoom call of generals talking about how to blow up bridges with long range Taurus missiles and not letting anyone know it was Germany but still embarrassing nonetheless.
Not as much as the German zoom call of generals talking about how to blow up bridges with long range Taurus missiles and not letting anyone know it was Germany but still embarrassing nonetheless.
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:10 am to YouKnowImRight
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Again. Putin is ex-KGB. Don't listen to what he says, watch what he does. He's getting the Soviet band back together.
This level of stupidity is tiring.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:11 am to YouKnowImRight
What leverage would Trump have that NATO presently does not? Other than withdrawing the amount of forces from Poland and maybe a few from Romania?
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:16 am to KiwiHead
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What leverage would Trump have that NATO presently does not? Other than withdrawing the amount of forces from Poland and maybe a few from Romania?
None that I know of. Nothing that Putin would take seriously given Trump's rhetoric on supporting NATO.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:23 am to YouKnowImRight
Well yea, now. Why would they ever negotiate when they’ve completely crushed Ukrainian moral and manpower?
The time to negotiate was April of the first year… but Biden sent Boris to squash that deal, and it’s all been downhill from there
The time to negotiate was April of the first year… but Biden sent Boris to squash that deal, and it’s all been downhill from there
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:31 am to YouKnowImRight
Unconditional Surrender.
If the Russian leadership estimates with some certainty that they can sustain this effort to the extent that Ukraine must Unconditionally Surrender, I expect Russia to require Unconditional Surrender and not some negotiated settlement.
But, can Russia sustain this effort to that extent?
If the Russian leadership estimates with some certainty that they can sustain this effort to the extent that Ukraine must Unconditionally Surrender, I expect Russia to require Unconditional Surrender and not some negotiated settlement.
But, can Russia sustain this effort to that extent?
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:33 am to VoxDawg
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They will negotiate with Trump to end the war.
Will permanban bet anyone that this happens.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:37 am to YouKnowImRight
Battle crazy woke fanatics and dumbass Republicans need to gear up and go fight for Ukraine. Save that country !
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:37 am to YouKnowImRight
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Again. Putin is ex-KGB. Don't listen to what he says, watch what he does. He's getting the Soviet band back together.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:42 am to KiwiHead
Economic and security, although Moscow would not trust the bureaucracy in DC to respect any settlements.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:44 am to KiwiHead
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What leverage would Trump have that NATO presently does not? Other than withdrawing the amount of forces from Poland and maybe a few from Romania?
The US is the only participant that's continuing this war.
Two years ago the Ukraine and Russia were close to negotiations, but the US basically told Ukraine we still have money and you still have men, so keep fighting.
President Trump can stop it unless the cia/fbi interfere with the presidents constitutional authority.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:46 am to YouKnowImRight
Listen here O-T badass... Russia already tried to negotiate, then NATO and the US sent Boris Johnson's sorry arse to break that up.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:46 am to idlewatcher
lol I’ll take that bet.
1) he’s a coin flip to even have a chance to. Who knows what’ll happen in Nov.
2) There’s no way Russia/Putin are going to pivot off their Ukraine policy because the US has a different president. What a spectacularly naive and absurd take.
*unless you’re calling simply letting them have it, a “negotiation”. If/when they take over Ukraine, it will be brutal.
1) he’s a coin flip to even have a chance to. Who knows what’ll happen in Nov.
2) There’s no way Russia/Putin are going to pivot off their Ukraine policy because the US has a different president. What a spectacularly naive and absurd take.
*unless you’re calling simply letting them have it, a “negotiation”. If/when they take over Ukraine, it will be brutal.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:48 am to mwade91383
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If/when they take over Ukraine, it will be brutal.
Your premise is that they haven't done so now because they are unable?
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:48 am to Bunk Moreland
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Russia would have settled for NATO neutrality twice (Dec 2021 and April 2022). I don't think they trust most parties who would handle the negotiations now. Can't blame them for going for the kill.
Who cares what Russia wants. We don’t cower to communists.
I say beef up NATO more.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:53 am to YouKnowImRight
Russia and Ukraine had agreed to peace talks and the west jerked Zylenski's chain. Russia has been goaded into this after decades of poking by America and NATO. They are pissed.
But personally, I think they would negotiate peace, as long as they keep the part of Ukraine they now occupy. I don't think Russia wants all of Ukraine, only what they now occupy.
But personally, I think they would negotiate peace, as long as they keep the part of Ukraine they now occupy. I don't think Russia wants all of Ukraine, only what they now occupy.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:55 am to VoxDawg
Does it really matter why they haven’t yet in this context?
I assume they would’ve by now if it was as easy as some here think. Given how much fake info/propaganda is out there (specifically about how good or bad things are going and for whom) it’s really hard to know the truth.
I assume they would’ve by now if it was as easy as some here think. Given how much fake info/propaganda is out there (specifically about how good or bad things are going and for whom) it’s really hard to know the truth.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:55 am to idlewatcher
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They will negotiate with Trump to end the war.
Will permanban bet anyone that this happens.
I don't bet, but I 100% agree with you.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I welcome the TD warmongers to step up, put their actions where their mouth is and volunteer.
Ukraine needs bodies more than money. Go save Ukraine.
Slava Ukraine and all that...lol. 99% of them dudes from the OT thread would shat their pants just thinking they needed to go to combat
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:57 am to YouKnowImRight
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On the World War that will result from Russia attacking a NATO country.
OK. Maybe stop reading fairytale and come back to reality.
If war happens, it will because the US started it
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