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re: A rant about medical practices and pharmaceuticals

Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by Bamboozles
BR
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:05 pm to
My mother, in her 70s and a diabetic who takes insulin shots multiple times a day, was prescribed Ozempic by her PCP to help control diet and thereby her diabetes.

Over the course of one month, her kidney function dropped from 55% to 18% (less than 15% is where you need dialysis). This happens to be one of the rarest side effects of Ozempic and as a family we decided to stop the medication. Since then her kidney function has improved but is more dependent on diet than ever before. She has to severely watch her sodium, potassium intake.

Not blaming the doc (well kinda am) but rarest of side effects do manifest themselves so gotta be careful

Hope your lil girl is back to her normal self soon enough now!
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21527 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:09 pm to
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Our pediatrician (at a large, popular practice in Birmingham
Who do y’all use? I’m shopping pediatricians and might want to avoid this one
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59424 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:30 pm to
That sucks. Glad you took her off of it. I would probably find a new pediatrician even if it wasn't the inhaler for seemingly brushing off your concerns so cavalierly. frick that. It's your child. I know times have changed and doctors have to see more patients in a day than they did when I was growing up in the 80s, but I think pediatrics should be a "calling," and the good pediatricians should have a more personal relationship with their patients and parents.

We were lucky that our kids weren't very sickly, so we rarely went to the pediatrician once they got through the toddler phase save for yearly (or 6 months) checkups, but I feel pretty confident that they would have been overly cautious if anything. I certainly think a call to the nurse that was relayed to the doctor would have at the very least had the doctor call back personally to alleviate fears and/or have us come in to check it out.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8255 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:33 pm to
Gotta keep you in the system baw. Treat side effects of meds with other meds instead of looking at alternative solutions. Modern day medicine
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35645 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:54 pm to
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Still though, this morning, my daughter disrupted the entire morning routine over some irrational issue.


I’m gonna check if my wife’s on this stuff.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18503 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:05 pm to
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Does this happen to be a children’s of alabama pediatrician?


Associated with. Not at the hospital though.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18503 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:08 pm to
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Who do y’all use? I’m shopping pediatricians and might want to avoid this one


Greenvale. Not going to out the doc for doxxing purposes. Experiences have been mostly good.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69070 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:15 pm to
Just remember the cdc and the fda are not your friend.

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53215 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:17 pm to
You’re the one that’s trusting the science by blaming the medicine instead of calling a priest and having an exorcism
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41264 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:20 pm to
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Regrettably, I’ve seen that the medical community has become business first over the last decade or two. There are still some really good doctors out there, but it’s much more difficult to find those who are patient first than it used to be.




I got lucky with mine. He practices preventative medicine.
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
3427 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:23 pm to
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The list of side effects says this is rare.


If something has a 10 in 10,000 rate of occurring (just making up this number for example sake- don’t know what the real numbers are for Flovent behavior changes) that means that 10 people experienced it. Not zero. If it wasn’t a noted possible side effect I would say the doctor was being reasonable. But if there is a list of known potential side effects, and your child starts exhibiting behaviors that coincide with something on that list, then the proper course of action would be to remove the potential cause and see if the behavior changes.

Short version- the doctor apparently doesn’t understand the distinction between “rare” and “none”.
Posted by GillGo37
Nola
Member since May 2006
851 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:26 pm to
My wife is a pulmonary NP and has seen this a couple times in her years of practice. She’s either decreased the dose or changed meds and the symptoms resolved. She also mentioned she’s seen it more with Singulair
Posted by CocoPecan
Member since Aug 2023
73 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 8:18 pm to
That sounds awful. Being dismissed by doctors is the worst, especially when the side effects you noticed were listed. A decent person would have checked the side effects if they weren’t sharp enough to have them memorized, and at least agreed it was a small possibility the medicine caused the behavior.

I’ve read meditation changes gray matter, and it looks like white matter can possibly come back with exercise and eating certain fats.

Idk if you’ve ever heard of PANDAS, but it sounds similar bc it followed a respiratory infection.

LINK

I hope you get your child back.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203780 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 8:22 pm to
Get a second opinion and get her off that shite right away… I’m positive they have other meds that can help her.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4209 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 8:31 pm to
Pretty sure they are mandated to report adverse reactions to the pharma company that have been reported to them.

Follow up on that and keep the pressure on.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 8:31 pm to
I couldn't imagine. Prayers sent.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68480 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 8:36 pm to
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Trust the science
The science said it could happen.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1989 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 8:47 pm to
Singulair gave me, a grown arse adult, horrible anxiety. First night I took it I couldn’t sleep. Called the doctor the next day and he said to stay on it, tried again and same thing. Got off that shite with the quickness. Turns out there’s a black box on it for those exact reasons.
Posted by Uroblast
SE TN
Member since Jan 2010
129 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 8:56 pm to
Watch out with Singulair.

Recent NYT article about it. Have seen the effects personally.

LINK
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1989 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 8:59 pm to
You can try finding her a supplement of magnesium and maybe some vitamin C. Vitamin C is a potent detoxifier and magnesium helps calm the nerves. This might help get her back to normal quicker.

If you’re on instagram check out this account and read through her reels for Vitamin C, Magnesium, Salt, and coconut oil. It’s good information for all around health.

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