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Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:09 am to
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:09 am to
quote:

The evidence that damned Alonso in Russell’s Australian GP crash


I watched that video and I still don’t agree with a penalty there.

Besides a full on Brake Check with RUS literally on his tail I don’t see how you penalize him. If ALO makes a mistake there like he said and it gives RUS enough of a chance to make a pass then so be it.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6262 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:47 am to
Can someone briefly explain the relationship between FIA and F1?

Is FIA the paid rule enforcer of F1?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27734 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:43 am to
The FIA owns the Formula 1 name. It essentially is F1. There is no F1 without the FIA.

In the 90s the courts in Europe found they were anti-competitive and forced them to split, so their answer was to LEASE commercial rights for F1 to FOM for 110 years. FIA still owns the trademark to F1 and owns the championship, FOM controlled the commercial rights and activities

Liberty Media bought FOM, so now they have that.

F1 can't split from FIA. Certainly all the teams could quit racing for F1, use the Liberty Media umbrella to setup their own rules, create a championship, and to negotiate with the tracks for race dates but it wouldn't be F1. FIA owns that.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44158 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:50 am to
quote:

[Giuliano Duchessa] Racing Bulls will bring a new floor to Suzuka after the first "problems" at the beginning of 2024. It should improve the stability of the downforce.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:46 pm to
I always thought FIA is to F1 like Roger Gooddell is to the NFL. But not 100% sure that’s accurate.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

F1 can't split from FIA. Certainly all the teams could quit racing for F1, use the Liberty Media umbrella to setup their own rules, create a championship, and to negotiate with the tracks for race dates but it wouldn't be F1. FIA owns that.

A minor refinement of this description is that the teams could form their own championship but it couldn't be branded as F1. It could be identical in every way to F1 but they'd have to call it something else, and F1 is an extremely powerful brand.

But the key player here is Ferrari, that's why they get special treatment* and an unfair slice of the pie.

If every team BUT Ferrari decided to leave and form their own championship, F1 would just welcome new teams with a temporary lower buy-in fee, and they would be inundated with applicants. F1 already has the contracts with the promoters/tracks and the sponsors would stick with F1. The other championship wouldn't have a chance.

If Ferrari and the other major brands left F1 to form their own championship, then F1 would be permanently damaged and would become meaningless as a championship. Like it or not, Ferrari is F1 in the minds of the fans and sponsors.

Ferrari retain special payment from Formula One as heritage bonus for being 'historical franchise' as Italian team continue to pocket £70m a year

Exclusive: Ferrari's $100 Million F1 Bonus At Risk


*After the August 2020 signing of the current F1 Concorde Agreement, Ferrari team principal Binotto said: "We got what was essential for us. To maintain the protection right, the veto right, which is a status important to Ferrari because of what Ferrari represents for the entire F1 and history." I don't know what this veto thing is, but it's clear they get some extra privileges.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Member since Nov 2012
5327 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

[Giuliano Duchessa] Racing Bulls will bring a new floor to Suzuka after the first "problems" at the beginning of 2024. It should improve the stability of the downforce.

Wouldn't this help both drivers equally? Danny better hope this brings down the qualy gap with Yuki. He's out of excuses.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50054 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 2:49 pm to
I'll be surprised if Lawson isn't in that car this year.

Danny Ric is;
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50054 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:14 pm to
Formu1auno live twitch:

for Imola, in Ferrari they talk internally as if it’s “almost a new/B car”, an extreme version of the current, they say, “baseline”

Ferrari: summary of information from
@formu1a__uno
via live Twitch:

- Ferrari was the car that presented the best on Friday which means that the preparation work carried out in Maranello before the race weekends is the benchmark of the paddock. This is not the first time this has happened. It's a real trend. In the paddock, they say that if it was a sprint weekend, no one would have caught Sainz and Leclerc.

- Ferrari's victory in Melbourne was a signal. The first important signal was in Jeddah during the last stint where Leclerc and Verstappen had the same racing pace. There, we understood a first important piece of data on which Ferrari can build.

- According to
@GiulyDuchessa
, Ferrari will still bring something new to the SF-24 in Japan. Little new things. At Imola, it will be the start of the important new package on the SF-24. The car has a healthy base to be able to push on development. The most visible changes at Imola are on the tighter sidepods but also the air intakes. There will also be a new floor. At Ferrari, they consider the Imola package a bit like a more extreme “new car”.

- Compared to last year, there is no longer a favorable or unfavorable track for the SF-24. It's a car with a lot of aerodynamic load, somewhat similar to RB in the sense that the SF-24 has no major flaws. It's easy to take to the limit, easy to adjust and it goes well on several different turns. What is still a little lacking on the SF-24 is the peak performance in very fast corners but it is slight. It's a car with a lot of balance. Bearman also demonstrated that the SF-24 is easy. It gives a lot more confidence to the pilots.

- Where Ferrari must unlock performance is the behavior on new rubber. In fact, the SF-24 is already a competitive car on race pace, balanced, handles the different tires well. When Ferrari uses the new rubber, it performs well but it does not yet have this performance peak like the RB which seems a little more competitive on the new rubber.

- Problem heating the tires in Q3? In fact, the car has changed technical characteristics compared to last year, that is to say it is more difficult to put the car in the right window in Q3 with the soft compound. But on the other hand, it goes much faster on Sunday. The team still needs to work on this aspect for qualifying, but the car goes much faster on Sunday than on Saturday. It's more of a strength for the race than for qualifying. But the team still managed to maintain a decent level in qualifying.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27734 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:41 pm to
Ok, so what is that overused meme from?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50054 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4358 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:16 pm to
Ferrari Veto

quote:

Team chief Fred Vasseur calls it their "nuclear button," and it's a power that no other team on the grid possesses. This button gives Ferrari the ability to veto any rule changes that they feel are not in their best interest or the best interest of the sport. That's right, they can unilaterally block any regulation change without batting an eye.


Ferrari's veto power is essentially like them sitting as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, if they no, the answer is no.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50054 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:04 pm to
Doesn't apply to "safety" however.

That is why the lowlifes called TD39, the one for porpoising, a safety issue.

TD39 essentially ruined the F1-75.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35629 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 7:58 pm to
Who needs viagra. This post gave me the four hour erection.

quote:

Ferrari: summary of information from
@formu1a__uno
via live Twitch:

- Ferrari was the car that presented the best on Friday which means that the preparation work carried out in Maranello before the race weekends is the benchmark of the paddock. This is not the first time this has happened. It's a real trend. In the paddock, they say that if it was a sprint weekend, no one would have caught Sainz and Leclerc.

- Ferrari's victory in Melbourne was a signal. The first important signal was in Jeddah during the last stint where Leclerc and Verstappen had the same racing pace. There, we understood a first important piece of data on which Ferrari can build.

- According to
@GiulyDuchessa
, Ferrari will still bring something new to the SF-24 in Japan. Little new things. At Imola, it will be the start of the important new package on the SF-24. The car has a healthy base to be able to push on development. The most visible changes at Imola are on the tighter sidepods but also the air intakes. There will also be a new floor. At Ferrari, they consider the Imola package a bit like a more extreme “new car”.

- Compared to last year, there is no longer a favorable or unfavorable track for the SF-24. It's a car with a lot of aerodynamic load, somewhat similar to RB in the sense that the SF-24 has no major flaws. It's easy to take to the limit, easy to adjust and it goes well on several different turns. What is still a little lacking on the SF-24 is the peak performance in very fast corners but it is slight. It's a car with a lot of balance. Bearman also demonstrated that the SF-24 is easy. It gives a lot more confidence to the pilots.

- Where Ferrari must unlock performance is the behavior on new rubber. In fact, the SF-24 is already a competitive car on race pace, balanced, handles the different tires well. When Ferrari uses the new rubber, it performs well but it does not yet have this performance peak like the RB which seems a little more competitive on the new rubber.

- Problem heating the tires in Q3? In fact, the car has changed technical characteristics compared to last year, that is to say it is more difficult to put the car in the right window in Q3 with the soft compound. But on the other hand, it goes much faster on Sunday. The team still needs to work on this aspect for qualifying, but the car goes much faster on Sunday than on Saturday. It's more of a strength for the race than for qualifying. But the team still managed to maintain a decent level in qualifying.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27734 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:14 pm to
Man, max has one equipment malfunction since 20 years ago and social media acts like Red Bull is DOA.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120493 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:14 pm to
Hail Fred
Hail Victory
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50054 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 2:41 pm to


Right now at the majority of tracks I'd say Sainz.

Max wouldn't win shite in the current MB.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
5327 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 3:24 pm to
Slow week, no race, no real news, just bored gossip...

I've seen several fans compare the average race pace of teammates for each race, comparing similar stints (same fuel load) when the teammates are on the same tire. But what if one happens to be in traffic while the other is not? Depending on which laps they decide to omit for various reasons, people are getting different results. For RB, some people have Yuki slightly faster, and some have Danny slightly faster. It's only about 0.1 sec/lap either way. Of course the Danny defenders are all over the charts that show Danny slightly faster, as proof that he's doing fine. So of course they are getting roasted.

Posted by MississippiLebowski
Member since Jul 2022
35 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 3:34 pm to
Does Danny Ric keep his seat long enough to maybe pass Bearman in the driver standings? How many drivers will drive every race of the season and still finish below bearman in the driver standings?
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29192 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 3:36 pm to
dude has to show something soon, hard to deny LL that seat if danny keeps going like this.
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