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re: Landon Victorian Barbe baseball
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:57 am to dkreller
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:57 am to dkreller
quote:He absolutely could not spin it as self defense on a trespasser simply because the guy wasn't certified
Lawyer could spin it as self defense on a trespasser.
The world we live in is shite.
Now there is an argument to be made that Barbe bears some of the liability because they hired an unqualified person to supervise minors. At best you're getting 20% comparative fault on that, but if you take it to trial, in front of an LC jury that I'm assuming likes Barbe more than the player, you'd be lucky to get that.
But that would only effect the results of a civil suit and would have no bearing on whatever hearing they have to determine Victorian's expulsion status. This isn't a Court of Law.
quote:Also.... let's not pretend that professional orginizations don't look the other way for much worse offenses. He was borderline first round pick territory. Worst case scenario, he'll go play in a Mexican/Domincan/Korean/Australian league for a couple years and then be posted and get picked up by someone in the states.
He will likely be expelled from Barbe which mean no College nor Major team will touch him.
Sure, Division 1 baseball is likely out of the question, but this won't prevent him from having a shot to make it to the MLB.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 10:01 am
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:13 am to Ghosttigerball
So students only pull knives on uncertified coaches?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:17 am to PP7 for heisman
Schools hire volunteers all the time. You get the state police back ground check, take some state issued training and you’re good to go. Lawyers will throw everything against the wall and hope something sticks.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:20 am to Ghosttigerball
Sounds like panic mode
Career at stake here & looking for avenues to justify behavior
Career at stake here & looking for avenues to justify behavior
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:35 am to fastlane
quote:
I hope they expel him just for him to rat them out about all the recruiting they are doing behind the scenes
what recruiting? pretty much everyone in the team grew up in LC but landon and the freshman from sulphur. both moved to LC legally.
so what kids did they recruit?
as far as having uncertified teacher being S&C coach...he was never supervising kids by himself. coaches were there whole time.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:42 am to lsu777
What was going on when the knife was pulled?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:48 am to lsu777
brether, respectively, you have talked positively about this kid for years, so it is a little shocking that all of a sudden you are making him out to be some shitbag.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 11:12 am
Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:02 am to Lester Earl
Can a student be expelled for having a knife on a school campus regardless of any possible altercation? Is possession enough?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:05 am to ItTakesAThief
quote:
Is possession enough?
Yes
I have seen it reduced to suspension, but never when it was pulled during an altercation
This kid was never attending college anywhere. This is a kid/family/Barbe problem only, not an LSU problem
Posted on 12/11/23 at 12:20 pm to lsu777
quote:
what recruiting? pretty much everyone in the team grew up in LC but landon and the freshman from sulphur. both moved to LC legally. so what kids did they recruit? as far as having uncertified teacher being S&C coach...he was never supervising kids by himself. coaches were there whole time.
Thanks for the update Coach Cecchini.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:02 pm to Ghosttigerball
quote:
Apparently he was just a parent and using intimidation tactics.
Also heard he admitted he was a bit overboard with what he did to cause all of this
Winning will become more important than discipline in this case.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:07 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
brether, respectively, you have talked positively about this kid for years, so it is a little shocking that all of a sudden you are making him out to be some shitbag.
i have not made him to be that at all. i said what he did was completely out of line for his character and in fact the way he has been acting since coming back from football has been out of line.
do i think he is a bad person or kid...nope...but he made a mistake the size of the grand canyon.
this whole year he has been acting like a shitbag as far as grades, leadership etc.
very different than in years past. i do know his home life has deteriorated but that is still not an excuse to do what he did.
its not just the pulling of the knife. its the premeditation, its what he said when he did it etc
bottom line is that actions have consequences period. most of the kids that go to barbe to play are kids from upper middle class and wealthy families. Want to essentially torpedo your program...yea excuse this type of behavior and watch how fast Chad and SH is owning the state.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:16 pm to lsu777
quote:
the way he has been acting since coming back from football has been out of line.
IDK if this is true as I have zero knowledge of anything but reading this makes me think of a situation when I was in HS.
It was the other way around but our starting QB (returning starter) also played baseball and they made it very far in the summer league (legions I think its called ) meaning the starter had to miss the very beginning of fall camp. The football coaching staff then punished the QB by making him split reps for 3 games with the backup saying that the backup earned it by being at all of fall camp. The punishment spontaneously ended in week 3 when we lost by a FG due to only scoring on drives when the actual starter was in the game.
In our case, the QB was a mild mannered kid that was baseball first and admittedly only played football because he knew our team would be worse without him. He had no real love for the game, just his friends. He was able to remain calm during the very unjust handling of him missing time due to ANOTHER sport he was playing for the SAME school. But I could easily see this being much more of an issue for a less level headed kid.
I am wondering if he was being given shite for missing stuff due to football when everyone knows his future is in baseball.
This obviously doesn't excuse what the kid did and it won't help him avoid any consequences but it would maybe explain the tension between player and coaches.
Or the kid could just be a VERY troubled individual with little to no coping skills.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:20 pm to RussellSheppardsPie
Bro this is the little league team from when the seniors were 12. Most of these kids are the starters and absolutely the core of the team….along with a couple younger kids….where is this recruiting allegations coming from? Name some names
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:28 pm to fastlane
You sound like you are from sulphur! ???????
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:32 pm to RussellSheppardsPie
He talks way faster than he could type and he probably would dare respond to peasants.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:36 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:
IDK if this is true as I have zero knowledge of anything but reading this makes me think of a situation when I was in HS.
It was the other way around but our starting QB (returning starter) also played baseball and they made it very far in the summer league (legions I think its called ) meaning the starter had to miss the very beginning of fall camp. The football coaching staff then punished the QB by making him split reps for 3 games with the backup saying that the backup earned it by being at all of fall camp. The punishment spontaneously ended in week 3 when we lost by a FG due to only scoring on drives when the actual starter was in the game.
In our case, the QB was a mild mannered kid that was baseball first and admittedly only played football because he knew our team would be worse without him. He had no real love for the game, just his friends. He was able to remain calm during the very unjust handling of him missing time due to ANOTHER sport he was playing for the SAME school. But I could easily see this being much more of an issue for a less level headed kid.
I am wondering if he was being given shite for missing stuff due to football when everyone knows his future is in baseball.
This obviously doesn't excuse what the kid did and it won't help him avoid any consequences but it would maybe explain the tension between player and coaches.
Or the kid could just be a VERY troubled individual with little to no coping skills
no idea.
but he has been playing football for the whole time of HS so doubt it would be an issue now all of the sudden.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:38 pm to Ghosttigerball
quote:
You sound like you are from sulphur!
Who is the referring to?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 1:57 pm to Tiger Ike
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This post was edited on 8/13/24 at 8:57 am
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