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re: How many times are we gonna die of climate change?

Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1574 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:16 pm to
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Aren’t we all supposed to be dead by now?


Seemingly, each new day provides a moment in which I realize I have underestimated just how stupid conservatives can be.

No one ever said we’d be dead by now. Temperature increases have progressed as predicted. The effects of which will slowly snowball over the next few decades. But we’re seeing them now. Hurricanes, for example. While 2023 was quiet, major hurricanes have increased substantially over the past couple of decades and increases in the cost of homeowners insurance will eventually lead to significant migration from coastal areas. This is just one example of the economic impact of warming.

Education is important.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 5:18 pm
Posted by AMac
Member since Aug 2018
1595 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:18 pm to
I can copy and paste too.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99497 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:18 pm to
So you just ignore the entire last year’s worth of data.
Posted by cajunsax62
Member since Nov 2006
888 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:21 pm to
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No one ever said we’d be dead by now.


50 Years of Predictions

Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
Member since Sep 2020
3687 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:24 pm to
Life on earth has always flourished more during warm cycles as opposed to cold cycles.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16032 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:40 pm to
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Hurricanes, for example. While 2023 was quiet, major hurricanes have increased substantially over the past couple of decades


The paradox is less air pollution makes for more radiant heat from the sun. The Atlantic is getting warmer because we are polluting less than ever.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
2671 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:49 pm to
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While 2023 was quiet, major hurricanes have increased substantially over the past couple of decades 


Two of the deadliest and most powerful hurricanes to ever make US landfall were in 1900 and 1969 ...

I guess decades now means centuries. Kids and their abortion of the English language
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20273 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:51 pm to
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No one ever said we’d be dead by now. Temperature increases have progressed as predicted


This is straight up bullshite on both counts.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4326 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:04 pm to
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No one ever said we’d be dead by now.


Nobody?


1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years [by 1985 or 2000] unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

2. “We are in an environmental crisis that threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”

4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 issue of Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years [by 1980].”

5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”

7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.

8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China, and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”

Note: The prediction of famine in South America is partly true, but only in Venezuela and only because of socialism, not for environmental reasons.

9. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

10. Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

11. Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.

12. Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.

13. Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980 when it might level out. (Note: According to the most recent CDC report, life expectancy in the US is 78.6 years).

14. Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000 if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say,`I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’”

Note: Global oil production last year at about 95M barrels per day (bpd) was double the global oil output of 48M bpd around the time of the first Earth Day in 1970.

15. Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated that humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.

16. Sen. Gaylord Nelson wrote in Look, “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

17. In 1975, Paul Ehrlich predicted that “since more than nine-tenths of the original tropical rainforests will be removed in most areas within the next 30 years or so [by 2005], it is expected that half of the organisms in these areas will vanish with it.”

18. Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an Ice Age.”
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4326 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:06 pm to
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Education is important.


It sure is.

Especially educating yourself about a false statement you're about to make while calling other people stupid.

You moron.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29232 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:34 pm to
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Education is important.


So is a set of balls.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3640 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:23 pm to
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Education is important.


And apparently, you could use some.
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