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Is zyn really that bad for you?

Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2455 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:29 pm
I dipped for years, quit several years ago. I got some Zyn the other day for my office and use them occasionally in the afternoons for a boost or just whenever when I'm not focusing, but obviously with the addictive properties and my history if I keep it up its going to become a more regular thing. Should I just toss what I have left before its too late, or is it really not that bad since a lot of the shite they put in dip isn't in it?
Posted by HVAU
Far, far away
Member since Sep 2010
4687 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:37 pm to
I used them to quit smoking after 30 years. I figure it’s got to be better for me than that.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11637 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:38 pm to
I quit dipping 10 years ago and picked up a can of zyn last week out of curiosity. Holy crap I missed that buzz. Not sure if it's healthy or not but I threw the can away because I was liking it too much.
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7472 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:40 pm to
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Holy crap I missed that buzz.


Same. I've been off nicotine for 4 years probably. Scared to try them. It's great there are safer alternatives to dip and cigarettes now though.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2455 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:41 pm to
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Holy crap I missed that buzz. Not sure if it's healthy or not but I threw the can away because I was liking it too much.


This is exactly why I'm asking lol

Even the 3's are good for me right now. But this time next month I'll be slamming 6's all day if I'm not careful
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5400 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 1:05 pm to
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Even the 3's are good for me right now. But this time next month I'll be slamming 6's all day if I'm not careful



I quit dipping 2 or 3 years ago and have been on Zyn ever since. It doesn't deteriorate your gum line like tobacco, and I honestly can't find any sources indicating it's any worse for you than something like caffeine.

I was trying to quit Zyn recently and I was able to stop for 2 days. I didn't have any withdrawal headaches, nausea or anything. Just had the craving for it. Can't really explain why but I enjoy them. I was quitting more because I was going through a lot. Think I spent $200 a month on them. I'm still on them, but I just scaled way back on how often I throw one in. Now I'm going through a can about every two days.

On the health side, I'm convinced they're nothing burgers.

If you're wanting to save some money on them, go to nicokick dot com and they're half the price of what you get them for in the convenience store.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27225 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:06 pm to
What is Zyn? Is it like snus?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2455 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:09 pm to
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What is Zyn? Is it like snus?



Its like a tobacco-free snus. So if you get mint flavored zyn its really close to mint gum, mint flavored snus will have the tobacco flavor too
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:48 pm to
If you’re off nicotine, don’t start back. I recently had to quit vaping and zynnin’ due to an upcoming surgery, and it was a hellacious first couple of weeks.
Posted by Doctor Grind
Las Vegas
Member since Jan 2022
213 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 3:58 pm to
Don't start it. Started to stop dipping and now more addicted to Zyn then I ever was to dip.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31608 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:29 pm to
Nicotine has health benefits. I haven’t studied the optimal dosage and how it compares to typical zyn usage.

Article - Molecular Medicine Reports
quote:

Nicotine administration can improve cognitive impairment in Alzheimer's disease (AD), and dyskinesia and memory impairment in Parkinson's disease (PD). In terms of its mechanism of action, nicotine slows the progression of PD by inhibiting Sirtuin 6, a stress-responsive protein deacetylase, thereby decreasing neuronal apoptosis and improving neuronal survival. In AD, nicotine improves cognitive impairment by enhancing protein kinase B (also referred to as Akt) activity and stimulating phosphoinositide 3-kinase/Akt signaling, which regulates learning and memory processes. Nicotine may also activate thyroid receptor signaling pathways to improve memory impairment caused by hypothyroidism. In healthy individuals, nicotine improves memory impairment caused by sleep deprivation by enhancing the phosphorylation of calmodulin-dependent protein kinase II, an essential regulator of cell proliferation and synaptic plasticity. Furthermore, nicotine may improve memory function through its effect on chromatin modification via the inhibition of histone deacetylases, which causes transcriptional changes in memory-related genes. Finally, nicotine administration has been demonstrated to rescue long-term potentiation in individuals with sleep deprivation, AD, chronic stress and hypothyroidism, primarily by desensitizing a7 nicotinic acetylcholine receptors. To conclude, nicotine has several cognitive benefits in healthy individuals, as well as in those with cognitive dysfunction associated with various diseases. However, further research is required to shed light on the effect of acute and chronic nicotine treatment on memory function.
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
2237 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:40 am to
Nicotine in and of itself has some health benefits. The delivery mechanisms are the problem, obviously. I would imagine it’s not great for your teeth and gums if you dip it.

They make lozenges if you really just want nicotine and not some ritual.
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