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Remember when it was about states rights?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:22 pm
Its the narrative people have decided to re-rewrite about the civil war too - that it wasn't about slavery, it was about a states ability to self govern. People really believe that?
Horse sh't.
It very clear based on all these posts today that for the right, abortion was never about states rights. People wanting the federal government to override a states decision on this issue?
Wow the right keeps moving further and further away from whatever independent self rule party it looks in the mirror and thinks it is.
Horse sh't.
It very clear based on all these posts today that for the right, abortion was never about states rights. People wanting the federal government to override a states decision on this issue?
Wow the right keeps moving further and further away from whatever independent self rule party it looks in the mirror and thinks it is.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 4:23 pm
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:24 pm to WaltWhite504
And the left embraces their quest for absolute slavery .....Where is your Granddad's pillow case?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:25 pm to WaltWhite504
It was about protecting the life of an unborn child and overturning an insanely biased decision that made abortion a right more sacred than those enumerated in the Constitution.
Ignore the cuck RINOs and their limp dick excuses.
Ignore the cuck RINOs and their limp dick excuses.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:28 pm to WaltWhite504
Cannot disagree with this. If Ohio voters choose to allow abortion, that is their choice. I will still raise my children to have morality and a conscious.
I voted against #1 but it does appear to the libertarian in me is glad to see the state loosening its morality laws upon the people.
The state cannot make its people become more moral.
That is up to the people. Not the state.
I voted against #1 but it does appear to the libertarian in me is glad to see the state loosening its morality laws upon the people.
The state cannot make its people become more moral.
That is up to the people. Not the state.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:28 pm to WaltWhite504
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t very clear based on all these posts today that for the right, abortion was never about states rights. People wanting the federal government to override a states decision on this issue? Wow the right keeps moving further and further away from whatever independent self rule party it looks in the mirror and thinks it is.
I 100% agree with free speech as long as say things I 100% agree with.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:33 pm to WaltWhite504
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Its the narrative people have decided to re-rewrite about the civil war too - that it wasn't about slavery, it was about a states ability to self govern. People really believe that?
Horse sh't.
It very clear based on all these posts today that for the right, abortion was never about states rights. People wanting the federal government to override a states decision on this issue?
Wow the right keeps moving further and further away from whatever independent self rule party it looks in the mirror and thinks it is.
Nobody ever claimed it was about state's rights. Well, nobody except the people who are still saying it today.
ROE V WADE was about states rights, not abortion in general.
Roe and abortion in general are two different issues. One issue is reversing possibly the most bullshite, made up, fabricated legal justification ever for removing state's rights, and the other is the question of whether killing a human being is actually constitutional.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:53 pm to WaltWhite504
Without the right to life, all other rights are meaningless.
Cry MORE
ETA: Downvote all you want, but you cannot refute it
Cry MORE ETA: Downvote all you want, but you cannot refute it
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:57 pm to WaltWhite504
Sure! Thousands of white people went to war died because they felt bad for black slaves. That really makes sense to you?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:02 pm to WaltWhite504
Sorry but the whole "health privacy" argument flew out the window with Covid.
I was semi-open to this argument before that, but it's a no go for me now.
I'm not buying into this intellectual dishonesty.
I was semi-open to this argument before that, but it's a no go for me now.
I'm not buying into this intellectual dishonesty.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:06 pm to WaltWhite504
Wtf are you talking about? Republicans have been pro-life at all levels of government generally. Disappointment over the results in Ohio isn’t inconsistent with the general Republican platform of supporting the dignity of innocent babies.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:07 pm to WaltWhite504
100% spot on and it’s the exact reason why nobody should be applauding Johnson being elected as Speaker. He’s another big government goon.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:07 pm to WaltWhite504
You're right. This has shown that any bit of celebration about Dobbs was not about states' rights. If it were, people would shrug their shoulders about Ohio even if they disagreed.
Abortion is a losing issue except for a handful of states. If you hate Abortion so much, move there.
Abortion is a losing issue except for a handful of states. If you hate Abortion so much, move there.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:13 pm to WaltWhite504
Sure thing commie. Go back to crushing all opposition.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:22 pm to WaltWhite504
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Its the narrative people have decided to re-rewrite about the civil war too - that it wasn't about slavery, it was about a states ability to self govern. People really believe that?
Slavery was a part of it but was most certainly not the only thing that led to the Civil War. Anyone that believes that slavery was the sole reason is as ignorant as those that believe it had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:26 pm to WaltWhite504
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Remember when it was about states rights?
It was never about states rights to me. For me abortion is morally evil and must be banned outright. It reduces a human being to nothing more than disposable property that a mother can confer personhood or death upon on a whim.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:31 pm to WaltWhite504
The war of northern aggression was absolutely about states rights. Lincoln was a regional candidate that only won because it was a three way race. He wasn’t even on the ballot in many states, and he represented shady Chicago industrial tycoons for a living before they helped him get elected to Congress. The Tariff of Abominations set the stage for secession, but Lincoln lit the fire when he invaded South Carolina.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:33 pm to WaltWhite504
You’re looking to Trump sycophants who think we should move further to the left cus then we’d win. They are clowns. Ignore them.
This has always been about the life of an unborn child. You ghouls on the left have dehumanized babies so it’s easier for you to murder them.
This has always been about the life of an unborn child. You ghouls on the left have dehumanized babies so it’s easier for you to murder them.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:36 pm to WaltWhite504
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about the civil war too - that it wasn't about slavery
It wasn't and it never will be. But the victors write the history.
It was always and will always be about growing a colossal federal government and bureaucracy.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:38 pm to WaltWhite504
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People wanting the federal government to override a states decision on this issue?
You mean idiots like Lindsey Graham...who thought it would be a great idea to bring this shite up before the 2022 elections?
I think abortion is abhorrent and am very much against it. But I am also a small "f" federalist and believe individual states should make their own decisions about that sort of thing.
I shouldnt be able to impose my morals on other states and they shouldn't be able to impose their absence of them on me.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:37 pm to WaltWhite504
It was about states rights. Lincoln didn’t even make slavery an issue until after Antietam in September of 1862.
The South had a right to secede. There wasn’t anything in the Constitution at that time that prohibited it. In fact, James Madison believed:
Hamilton and Madison hoped secession would never happen, but they never denied that it was a right and a practical possibility. They envisioned the people taking arms against the federal government if it exceeded its delegated powers or invaded their rights, and they admitted that this would be justified. Secession, including the resort to arms, was the final remedy against tyranny. (This is the real point of the Second Amendment.)
Hamilton and Madison were correct.
The South had a right to secede. There wasn’t anything in the Constitution at that time that prohibited it. In fact, James Madison believed:
Hamilton and Madison hoped secession would never happen, but they never denied that it was a right and a practical possibility. They envisioned the people taking arms against the federal government if it exceeded its delegated powers or invaded their rights, and they admitted that this would be justified. Secession, including the resort to arms, was the final remedy against tyranny. (This is the real point of the Second Amendment.)
Hamilton and Madison were correct.
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