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Would you be willing to be absolutely terrible for 2-3 years to blow it all up and rebuild
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:49 am
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:49 am
I'm about at that point. But the only way out due to our salary cap situation is a total blow up and multi-year rebuild, which probably means a couple of 2-15, 3-14 type seasons.
Try to keep a couple of the younger defensive stars, but dump everyone else that has value. Take the cap hit. Be terrible. Build back the offense through the draft.
Try to keep a couple of the younger defensive stars, but dump everyone else that has value. Take the cap hit. Be terrible. Build back the offense through the draft.
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:52 am to LSUFanHouston
We should have done this a few years ago.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:52 am to LSUFanHouston
Its what needs to be done.
It will suck. we will bitch about it every sunday all offseason, we will bitch more the following year. Fans won't go to games.
But its what needs to be done.
It will suck. we will bitch about it every sunday all offseason, we will bitch more the following year. Fans won't go to games.
But its what needs to be done.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:00 pm to LSUFanHouston
Willing or not that’s a very possible outcome in the near term only without being able to really rebuild
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:04 pm to LSUFanHouston
If we have the right coaching staff in place sure, but with any of CSP's staff hanging around we are not going to build a successful team.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
This shoujd have been done once Brees retired. Exactly why I said to do exactly what Tampa did. Sign a vet free agent for no more than 5 million a year until our cap situation was under control. Instead we dig ten feet deeper with Carr.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:18 pm to LSUFanHouston
Yes. I'd rather suck and have a potential light at the end of the tunnel then be stuck in this terrible mediocre purgatory.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:23 pm to LSUFanHouston
Yes. It's easy to say because it's not my money but my opinion on moving guys like Kamara and Thomas (though not sure if MT has value) has even changed.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
Its a risk, but at this rate you're in pro sports no man land. No man land = Bad for fans, great for owners.
Good enough to make playoffs/wild card.
Bad enough to never win and lose out on elite prospects.
Good enough to make playoffs/wild card.
Bad enough to never win and lose out on elite prospects.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:56 pm to LSUFanHouston
I am not convinced the roster is the problem.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
I think from the posters here in the off season it was a majority wish. I believe it's a bigger majority now lol
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
Should of did this 2-3 years ago
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:10 pm to LSUFanHouston
Willing? The saints are absolutely terrible lol
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:13 pm to LSUFanHouston
Problem with this is because of how the contracts are set-up, you can't just start getting rid of players and you have to restructure a lot of the deals on the books to get under the cap over the next 2 years. You basically have to be willing to suck for ~3 years, then you can start the rebuilding process over the 2-3 years after that.
As fans, knowing the ultimate goal will be to bet back to being a legit team in ~5years, we would all go for it. However, the coaching staff & front office know they would not survive those 5 years so they will continue to make decisions that are in their best interests and figure out a way to sign the next big name next offseason.
As fans, knowing the ultimate goal will be to bet back to being a legit team in ~5years, we would all go for it. However, the coaching staff & front office know they would not survive those 5 years so they will continue to make decisions that are in their best interests and figure out a way to sign the next big name next offseason.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:16 pm to LSUFanHouston
Yes. Just as I have been for the last few years. Let’s get this party started.
Not sure it will ever happen with snake oil loomis continuing his grift of self preservation for the foreseeable future though.
Not sure it will ever happen with snake oil loomis continuing his grift of self preservation for the foreseeable future though.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:27 pm to LSUFanHouston
if we draft well and take some cap hits over the next couple years we might not be much worse than we've been the past two seasons.
i had it in my head that jj mccarthy might fall to us in the 1st round, but now i doubt it. would be all for taking pratt from tulane int he later rounds. he's a better pro prospect than everyone out side of williams, maye and mccarthy. penix is a good player, but he looks just like teddy bridgewater. marginal arm strength. nix still can't read a defense.
hopefully carr can turn it around, and i hope he does, i just wouldn't put money on it at this point.
the saints future is mortgaged with guys who need to be retiring after this season, but are hanging around because we keep kicking the can down the road. it's gonna happen again this off-season and the next and the next because extending these guys is the only way for us to keep getting under the cap. we can't even cut enough people to get under the cap. gonna need to eat some contracts and let some guys go after the 24 season.
i had it in my head that jj mccarthy might fall to us in the 1st round, but now i doubt it. would be all for taking pratt from tulane int he later rounds. he's a better pro prospect than everyone out side of williams, maye and mccarthy. penix is a good player, but he looks just like teddy bridgewater. marginal arm strength. nix still can't read a defense.
hopefully carr can turn it around, and i hope he does, i just wouldn't put money on it at this point.
the saints future is mortgaged with guys who need to be retiring after this season, but are hanging around because we keep kicking the can down the road. it's gonna happen again this off-season and the next and the next because extending these guys is the only way for us to keep getting under the cap. we can't even cut enough people to get under the cap. gonna need to eat some contracts and let some guys go after the 24 season.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
Absolutely, we should be a couple of years into this process already and would maybe have some hope in the next couple of years. It’s painful, but this is the only way to get cap under control and have a real chance at a gamechanger early in the draft.
It seems our brass is ok doubling down on mediocrity instead which is even worse. We have that to look forward to and probably not a real playoff contending team until the 2030s it we’re lucky.
Fun times.
It seems our brass is ok doubling down on mediocrity instead which is even worse. We have that to look forward to and probably not a real playoff contending team until the 2030s it we’re lucky.
Fun times.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:00 pm to LSUFanHouston
I mean we are on year 2 of absolutely terrible already
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:05 pm to LSUFanHouston
It's what needs to happen but won't. They will try to remain relevant going 7-10 to 9-8 and get middle of the road draft picks.
Saints should go 3-14 at best for the next 4 years. Trading down most picks unless there is a can't miss prospect to build around. I'm not talking about just QB position either. After 4 years, the cap should be in great shape and there should be a stockpile of picks.
Any coaching staff should be able to work with that abd it should attract a decent one.
BUT, instead here's to decades of mediocrity at best.
Saints should go 3-14 at best for the next 4 years. Trading down most picks unless there is a can't miss prospect to build around. I'm not talking about just QB position either. After 4 years, the cap should be in great shape and there should be a stockpile of picks.
Any coaching staff should be able to work with that abd it should attract a decent one.
BUT, instead here's to decades of mediocrity at best.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
It’s going to be 5-7 years maybe longer if we keep doing the same shite as now
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