re: In 2023, What Does “Conservative Values” Mean To You

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Also being selfish and greedy. That’s an actual characteristic of today’s self-identifying “conservative,” quite unfortunately.

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I have to ask for clarification on this.

Let's start with this: you put the word conservative in quotation marks, which would lead me to believe that you aren't talking about actual conservatives. So who are you talking about?

Then let's move to this: What do you mean being "selfish and greedy?" That's usually something I see the dumbest leftists on the planet say, but I'm reserving judgement pending more context.

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First, that’s my bad here, I mistook you for someone else. I thought you were a refreshingly open minded discussion partner. But your immediate prior commentary convinced me otherwise.

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I started to tell you there was no need to apologize, but if you thought I had an opinion other what I have then you probably should apologize for not paying any attention.

Perhaps worship isn't the correct word. It's much more like a celebrity crush, wherein the percentage I identified (which apparently includes you, since that obviously touched a nerve) fantasize about what great friends you and Trump would be if you happened to meet in the bathroom at a Trump rally and how he would call you for the common man's perspective from time to time and how you would be his secret advisor.

Either way, the point isn't the words used to describe it, it's that you guys are incapable of evaluating the man, his actions, and (especially) his policy positions in any way that even approaches objectivity and accept whatever he says unquestioningly.

If you are going to claim that there's no 'evidence" of that, then that's how you say you are a Trump Cultist while denying that you are a Trump Cultist.

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The answer’s right there in my post.

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No, what's in your post in that section is a word salad that is sufficiently vague as to be useless.

If you refuse to elaborate I will make my best guess, which is this:

When you say "conservatives," you mean actual conservatives, but since you don't really know what conservatism is and confuse populism with conservatism, you think people who make decisions based on foundational principles are the faux "conservatives" and people who have no principles or even understanding of how our system works and what it's based on (like Trump) and just say whatever strikes them in the moment are the true conservatives, provided that they (usually, but not always) disagree with the Democrats and (always) post sick Democratic burns on Twitter.

Further, I'm also guessing that someone who makes policy decisions based on principles is somehow who you mean when you use the words "selfish and greedy" with the "substantiation" you provided. My next guess is that you think anyone who is (rightly) against the government paying off student loans is selfish and greedy.

Those might be stretches, but you seem committed to refusing to provide more or give examples, so...

Banana pudding
72 Malibu 4 barrel 350
Homemade ice cream
Malt Duck
Miller Ponies
Fried Catfish

Forgot about peanut butter, my bad.

Christian values.

Elevating the importance of the traditional family unit (marriage between one man, and one woman) in society; lowering taxes and regulations on businesses; unhindered commerce; protect the second amendment; stay out of stupid endless wars in foreign nations (a new tenant of conservatism), but at the same time, strengthen military; eliminate illegal immigration; eliminate wasteful government spending.