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re: Perspective on BK from recent ND alum

Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by TT
Member since Nov 2007
984 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:38 pm to
As though this one perspective matters because he is a ND alum…. Everyone has a perspective. Who k owe this could be some dipshit like 99% of the people on this site.

Get outta here with this BS and quit trying to rationalize your opinion with the opinion of another.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7443 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

I feel like the drier, more restrained, less individualistic and detail oriented culture BK has tried to instill is one that's inadvertently crushed the natural spirit of LSU a bit.
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His team got that dawg [ ] in them [X] not in them
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
1727 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:40 pm to
The cultural point you’re trying to make is not applicable to the situation at hand and you’re assuming a shite load.

Other than that. Your post reads like a 16 year old girl typed it. Frankly, your post could have been 4 or less sentences but you felt the need to establish a lot of BS when getting to the root of you’re trying to say.

“BK is not a cultural fit for LSU.” Well no shite dumb arse. All that guff and idiotic babble to get to the main point.

Also, you bit on my post so I know your little arse is triggered. Lol
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 6:42 pm
Posted by Florida Horn
Member since Dec 2021
27 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:41 pm to
My dad went to ND, so I'm a pretty big fan and watched basically every game he coached there (including the Denbrock era). I grew up in Houston, so I'm familiar with LSU but not an expert.

That out of the way, I actually think you're over complicating things a bit. BK, like you said, is a pretty good coach overall, but his offensive philosophy and his QB management/development blow. Did any ND QB actually grow and progress under Kelly? Not that I can think of. Many, e.g., Golson, Kizer, Wimbush, actually regressed.
Posted by hsgeoboy
Panamá (but originally AR)
Member since Aug 2017
910 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:46 pm to
Ok I'm overly wordy, you have to hate me for it? That's what the tldr is for. And no matter how attacking your messages to me are, I'm not going to hate you, a stranger on the internet, for it. not sure why u feel the need to troll and be all "haha triggered" to me. Just disagree w me and move on with your evening

My point is not that he isn't a cultural fit. I think that argument is BS, he can be a great fit. I take issue with it seems like he's trying to make LSU more like ND, which pisses me off, esp when the ND culture is supposedly why he left in the first place
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 6:48 pm
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8450 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:46 pm to
The comment "but, like" is where you prove you are no ND graduate. You type like a grade school girl texts. The rest of whatever you typed is all hogwash.
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
1727 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

My point is not that he isn't a cultural fit. I think that argument is BS, he can be a great fit. I take issue with it seems like he's trying to make LSU more like ND, which pisses me off, esp when the ND culture is supposedly why he left in the first place


Bruh… that word salad just made you look really bad.
Posted by hsgeoboy
Panamá (but originally AR)
Member since Aug 2017
910 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:52 pm to
I type like a 23 year old on the internet, which I am. Not sure why people are getting hung up on that instead of just disagreeing with me
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
1727 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:53 pm to
Why don’t you just kick back a read the board for a while.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23918 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:55 pm to
Having watched and attended ND games the last five years, I kinda get what OP is saying. It’s hard to put it into words. ND had several problems under Kelly, such as playing down to inferior opposition and sticking to plans and strategies even after it because clear they weren’t working consistently, such as what we are seeing in the run game. He will respond to criticism by running some misdirection in an easy game, but when a big game is on the line, he will revert to a single back handoff up the middle for -2 yards. And Kelly is a really good coach, which makes it frustrating when it happens.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42177 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:55 pm to
Saban wasn't "fun" to play for but he demands excellence and wins.

But he also recruits and gets THE best players. CBK is not quite doing that & NIL is part of the reason.

Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
156036 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

You mean when we recruited the highest level talent the program ever had consistently? We all agree.


At least this incoming not top 10 class might be full of potential grads
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
1727 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

Having watched and attended ND games the last five years, I kinda get what OP is saying. It’s hard to put it into words.


Ok, but here is the attempt…

quote:

ND had several problems under Kelly, such as playing down to inferior opposition and sticking to plans and strategies even after it because clear they weren’t working consistently, such as what we are seeing in the run game. He will respond to criticism by running some misdirection in an easy game, but when a big game is on the line, he will revert to a single back handoff up the middle for -2 yards. And Kelly is a really good coach, which makes it frustrating when it happens.


Another confusing post. This reads that BK isn’t the right guy to enact the correct change for the program to win championships….


Which means he’s not the correct cultural or strategic fit for LSU. Got it!

Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
5381 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:09 pm to
Feel like a Sonic meetup needs to happen here
Posted by kobsa
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2021
136 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:11 pm to
I understand exactly what you are trying to convey. I’m La raised, LSU alumn and took no offense to any of your comments. Most importantly, I think you’re 100% correct with your observations. I like the professionalism he’s brought to the FB program but loathe the lack of nasty, physicality, and raw fight we don’t seem to have w/ our players. Just watch the player interviews; you can see it in their demeanor. “Neutered” is an excellent description. Football is controlled conflict; we need to build warriors. CBK is not building warriors; looks like he’s building bankers.
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
1727 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:12 pm to
There is a great Sonic in Hot Springs for a knuckle check….
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10722 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:16 pm to
Bottom line is he inherited a fricking mess and it’s year 2. Held together a good class in 22 and top 5 last year. He will finish top 10 this year. He didn’t have a QB on his roster that he thought was his guy. He brought in JD and won us a SEC west first year.

Ed O absolutely squandered an opportunity to have top talent after 19 and he blew it. Some good classes that have since been purged. He set this program back 5 years.

Notre dame fans kind of shut up last year. They seem to be back with the I told you so. No hearing any of that noise from anyone associated with that program.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:17 pm to
This guy is so unlikable 2 legacy LSU players couldn't wait to get away from him.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23918 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:19 pm to
And for the record, I think Kelly can win a championship at LSU. It’s just frustrating sometimes.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4212 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

dit: when I say LSU is not ND, I don't mean it negatively to LSU. in fact I mean it negatively towards ND if anything. ND culture and football culture by extension can be kinda stiff and reserved and preoccupied with image. It mostly works for ND but LSU is just a diff vibe. SEC energy, more electric feel, less held back, etc. I wouldn't want LSU to be more like ND and I don't think BK should to try to make it that way, don't know why that's triggering people?


Correct me if I’m wrong, but outside of schools like the Military Academies (sorry, Aggy, your pretend ROTC program doesn’t count), isn’t Notre Dame the most unique in terms of all Division I schools?

Basically, you can’t be a 5 star QB and be admitted strictly because you have a pulse? Don’t you have to have respectable grades? Also, don’t they room the football players with random non-athlete students? I’ve just heard that the culture at ND is very inclusive, tight knit and just different from pretty much all other schools.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 7:45 pm
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