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re: Cpap-sleep apnea technology has a huge tech cheaper change

Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by ugasickem
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:07 pm to
Reading original post again, maybe don’t need sleep study now? You can buy them directly?
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 11:30 pm
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:09 pm to
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I’ll Be honest, it’s changed my life. But like anything else, they are out for money


1000% correct. And it's a damned shame that it has become an absolute racket.
Posted by ugasickem
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:17 pm to
But it damn sure probably has saved my life. I didn’t do the second hospital bullshite stay. All they are gonna do on overnight stay is adjust to
Exact setting. That shite happens automatically on the one you get can get from Sleepwell without spending 10k. It nice sleeping now.
Posted by ugasickem
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:20 pm to
This
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:36 pm to
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Let me know where you read the word cure in my comments dumb arse. This isn't surgery either. Can you read? You know Apnimed is about to hurt your business. Just a matter of time now.

Surgery, dental appliances, electrical wires installed in the throat, and now a magic pill!
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:52 pm to
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Glad to hear from you, where ya been the last couple years. You do realize that after 25 years in the field technology has moved on and you are technically obsolete. What got me started this week was my wife going to a sleep lab to start the process requiring at home testing because of mobility issues. All okey but then they said the second test had to be done at their lab which had no mobility accommodations. Kinda obvious that could not be done so the proposed alternative was to prescribe an auto titration cpap.

Please review my post to understand that I recommend not using Insurance because it's cheaper and and a whole lot less hassle to buy it direct. All of my machines have had sd cards over the last 15 years. The first one was read one time to generate an insurance report, the second machine sd card was never read and had to be replaced after 4 year because it was full of useless never read data.

Maybe you could learn to code
Wow! I'm impressed your anecdotal evidence of your experience certainly outweighs my 25 years in the industry. shite, I wasted a bunch of time going to all those classes to become a respiratory therapist, spent years dealing with patients, conversing with doctors, learning the requirents of various insurances, when I just could have asked you for your vast knowledge based on how you and the Mrs. acquired your CPAP.

I taught a guy today, how to use and care for his new Autocpap, fitted him for his mask to make sure it didn't leak. He will be called in 3 days to see if everything is ok, then again in a month, then again in 6 months. Behind the scenes, if he has issues with treatment he has a medical professional working with his physician's office to come to a solution. He got all of his equipment, the service, and the service after sale for a massive $97! I sure bet he wished he had just typed in his VISA number on a website, paid $650, and a few days later a box arrives with contents that forces him to figure out on his own. CPAP.com probably has thousands of employees that do nothing but call doctors on the behalf of their patients.

Damn, I feel dumb now.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:14 am to
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it’s like a prescription strength flesh light that snoring dudes strap on their face?



Wait. I am supposed to put it on my FACE?
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5967 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:16 am to
a five year life on a 650$ machine works out to about 10.80 $/month. Compared to your 97 $/month service, the cost difference is about 5000$ in favor of ownership.

I am sure you are not dumb but writing computer code may be in your future, due to technical obsolence.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60574 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:46 am to
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need to catch up on the technology. the new machines do not have a set pressure as did the classic cpap. Much safer to avoid over and under treating.


Please do tell about the new technology. Explain how an Auto SV works. BiPAP AVAPS. BiPAP ST.

You’re out of your depth spouting about something you know nothing about at all. APAP is great for someone with low to moderate obstructive sleep apnea. It does absolutely Dick to anyone with any amount of central apnea. In fact, it can make central apnea far worse.

But hey…we need to catch up to technology….


If anyone ACTUALLY wants to know about the various machines and why an APAP won’t just fix everyone, feel free to ask.
Posted by ugasickem
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 1:04 am to
I’m pretty sure this is a good forum for you to explain differences here. I’m willing to hear about them, if you’re willing to share. Consider this me asking, I’m assuming you’re well bereaved, or even an expert on this matter
Posted by ugasickem
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 1:07 am to
I do know mine starts slow, I have the nasal mask, not full mask, and then I fall asleep pretty quick after jerking off
Posted by ugasickem
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 1:07 am to
Did I say they that. Lol. Just kidding. Dark humor.
Posted by ugasickem
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 1:10 am to
But seriously it’s helped me a ton. Had a friend a long time ago. Deviated septum, he went In for surgery, doctor broke his nose
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 1:47 am to
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There can be side effects from a cpap device everywhere from gastric distention to possibly barotrauma from pressures..


For my cpap, the pulmonologist wrote a prescription for an auto titrating CPAP with a specific range of pressure.

After using it a few months, I decided to increase the minimum pressure to what my average pressure was. Found the instructions on the internet. A few weeks later I started experiencing vertigo.

It took me a couple weeks to realize that it was due to increased CPAP pressure and was messing with my inner ear. So yeah, these aren't toys and can cause harm if not used properly.
This post was edited on 8/26/23 at 1:48 am
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
864 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 3:29 am to
Goose which DME company you work for?
I will NEVER return to a DME again. After issues after issues with 2 different companies

I started buying mine machines outright. I monitor my API and have sleep wonderfully without that BS from the DME or forking over another 10k to do a sleep study...the USA medical field is little to do about treatment and alot about profit. Covid provided this 1000%.
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
1835 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 5:47 am to
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Anybody try that new surgical implant (maskless) approach to sleep apnea?


This.

I’ve heard good things about this new implant.
Posted by doc baklava
Between heaven and hell
Member since Oct 2020
811 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 7:23 am to
Or just get a mandibular advancement device.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11469 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 7:28 am to
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a five year life on a 650$ machine works out to about 10.80 $/month. Compared to your 97 $/month service, the cost difference is about 5000$ in favor of ownership.

I am sure you are not dumb but writing computer code may be in your future, due to technical obsolence.
You might be seriously retarded. Here's an idea: Stop giving advice about something you know almost nothing about!

$97/month? The cpap was $974, he paid a 10% copay, and his insurance picked up the rest! He owns the machine day one! Medicare, Tricare, and a few private insurances rent. And when I say rent, it's capped. Medicare/Tricare cap the rental at 15 months. The allowable for the monthly rental is less than $50, of which Medicare/Tricare pay 80%. $5000??? You've lost your damn mind if you think there's an insurance out there that is paying $5000 for a cpap machine.

I've never framed a house in my life. Think I'll go down to Lowes, buy a 2x4 then proceed to Home/Garden section and start giving advice to someone starting to build a house. You know so little about this subject, it's hilarious that you are giving advice.
Posted by Contrary
Nashville
Member since Dec 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 7:46 am to
My brother has an apap(auto adjust) it contually adjusts to what his sleep apnea is causing. His energy came back like a light switch after first night of using it. It took him about a month to get fully adjusted but the trade off removes a handful of serious potential physical conditions such as death
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11469 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 7:57 am to
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Goose which DME company you work for?
Want my address and SSN too?

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forking over another 10k to do a sleep study..
If you paid $10K for a sleep study....PT Barnum had a quote tailor-made for you.


quote:

the USA medical field is little to do about treatment and alot about profit.
Well hello there Mr. Marx! Sounds like you favor communism as your preferred form of government. Let me let you in on a little secret. Remove the profit factor, and you'll remove a shite-ton of availability of service and product. If you'd rather throw the AMEX card at an online site instead of using your insurance, that's your perogative. Just don't act like you are saving money. BCBS pays the same amount for a Resmed AS11 as you would pay OUT OF YOUR POCKET on an website store. Even if you have a massive deductible that you haven't met, and are forced to pay the entire thing without any payment from insurance, you are still paying the same amount BUT with the DME you have a local place to walk into and exchange your mask, get help and advice from a professional, and work with your prescribing doctor ON YOUR TREATMENT.

You do realize that compliance monitoring has more to do with insurance than the DME or the doctor, right? I don't know what beef you've had with those two DMEs were, but I be willing to bet it had something to do with YOUR insurance requirements and government regulations. Do you think some guy opens a business, just to spend a bunch of time doing a ton of non-compensated administrative tasks, just for the Hell of it? Why is it the online sites don't take insurance? Hmmmmm.....
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