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The student loan industrial complex
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:29 am
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:29 am
A system that feeds on itself.
Article from Reason…
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government basically vomits money at everyone who applies.
If private lenders gave out the loans, they'd look at whether they were likely to be paid back. They'd ask questions like: "What will you study? You really think majoring in dance will lead to a job that will pay you enough to allow you to pay us back?
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College is good for people who want to be college professors or who major in fields like engineering and computer science that might lead to good jobs. But that's not most people. Government loans encourage everyone to go to college, even if they're not very interested in academics
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Government's handouts also invite colleges to keep raising tuition. Over the past 50 years, college cost rose at four times the rate of inflation. Four times!
Article from Reason…
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Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:32 am to TejasHorn
And it will only get worse with more useless degrees and higher costs. This is what happens when people use other peoples money for platitudes and bullshite programs. 90% of people in higher education would never make it in the real world.
Another industry that will destroy itself, then expect a bailout from the very people they hate with a passion.
Got to hand it to Progressives: they know how to milk everything dry, the get blood from the stone.
Another industry that will destroy itself, then expect a bailout from the very people they hate with a passion.
Got to hand it to Progressives: they know how to milk everything dry, the get blood from the stone.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:37 am to TejasHorn
College should be for the rich, the super talented that earn scholarships based on merit and poor guys who can run really fast with a football.
The rest of us should be in trade schools.
The rest of us should be in trade schools.
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 8:43 am
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:39 am to TejasHorn
Too much spending on beefing up already bloated administrative staffs with meaningless jobs like diversity officers is the kind of shite that drives up tuition costs significantly.
Unless you come from a rich family who can pay it all out of pocket, stick to a community college for 2 years and transfer to the flagship university in your state. If the location is close, live at home with your parents and the cost will be even lower to where you may not have to take out a single loan. It doesn’t take being a financial genius to figure this out.
But of course Gen Z kids view college as a “vacation” rather than a tool to explore career options. They don’t care one bit about taking out loans if it means being able to have the “college experience”, because to them, posting Instagram pictures of themselves partying at frat houses is more important than having a stable career with no debt
Unless you come from a rich family who can pay it all out of pocket, stick to a community college for 2 years and transfer to the flagship university in your state. If the location is close, live at home with your parents and the cost will be even lower to where you may not have to take out a single loan. It doesn’t take being a financial genius to figure this out.
But of course Gen Z kids view college as a “vacation” rather than a tool to explore career options. They don’t care one bit about taking out loans if it means being able to have the “college experience”, because to them, posting Instagram pictures of themselves partying at frat houses is more important than having a stable career with no debt
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 8:50 am
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:41 am to TejasHorn
What do you think about UT having one of the largest student populations in the country?
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:45 am to TejasHorn
Everything the government touches turns to ashes.
I started at LSU in 08. The student loan market was federalized in 10/11. The cost of tuition nearly tripled by the time I graduated in 2013. I was out of state.
The quality of education did not triple, I can assure you.
I started at LSU in 08. The student loan market was federalized in 10/11. The cost of tuition nearly tripled by the time I graduated in 2013. I was out of state.
The quality of education did not triple, I can assure you.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:46 am to TejasHorn
This is why nobody with a functioning brain should support blanket student loan forgiveness on its own, regardless of political leanings. Doing so without addressing the root cause is like trying to fix a burst pipe by wiping the floor with a towel.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:48 am to TejasHorn
Every layer of this is a racket. The more useless/harmful it is to the student , the more it perpetuates.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:48 am to TejasHorn
The alternative is to put barriers up and only the wealthy can attend college.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 11:35 am to TejasHorn
I just don’t understand why people are going to college for about 90% of degree fields.
The BS behind it though is when you have jobs that want certain positions to have a degree like basically a glorified secretary and have degree preferred or account manager and degree preferred. That causes people to go get BS degrees because they can’t even get an interview without one
The BS behind it though is when you have jobs that want certain positions to have a degree like basically a glorified secretary and have degree preferred or account manager and degree preferred. That causes people to go get BS degrees because they can’t even get an interview without one
Posted on 8/17/23 at 11:57 am to TejasHorn
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If private lenders gave out the loans, they'd look at whether they were likely to be paid back. They'd ask questions like: "What will you study? You really think majoring in dance will lead to a job that will pay you enough to allow you to pay us back?
I don't remember this being the case before the federalization of student loans. Why should I think this would change if private lenders had more control?
This line of thinking would also impact undeclared students or ones who switch majors after their first semester or more. Would the private lender suddenly halt the loan if someone switched from a business major to an economics major? Or to an education major? This seems like it would force students to stick with majors they may not excel in or care about. Or limit their opportunity to switch majors to complete any degree. Yes, lenders can choose who they want to lend money to but successful ones will squeeze out competition and become too big to fail.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 12:13 pm to TejasHorn
The student loan industry is basically the same thing that the real estate industry was prior to '08. As long as the gov't backstops bad purchasing decisions, why wouldn't colleges raise tuition and expand as much as possible? It's a house of cards and a total waste of money.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 12:22 pm to TejasHorn
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If private lenders gave out the loans, they'd look at whether they were likely to be paid back. They'd ask questions like: "What will you study? You really think majoring in dance will lead to a job that will pay you enough to allow you to pay us back?
LOL no.
The only question they would ask is the same question that private student loan lenders ask now, and that is... what's your credit look like?
The vast majority of students would need a co-sigher. That's fine if your parents have good credik. But for a lot of students, that is not the case.
TOPS is a good system. It should be in every state. The standards are low. If you want more than that, pay it yourself. But at least if you are of even basic intelligence, you get a degree for basically free.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 12:30 pm to TejasHorn
any time the govt tries to make something affordable it gets more expensive.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 12:35 pm to TejasHorn
You should be able to go to college and take classes for only your major. My son going for engineering shouldn't have to take and pay for BS psych, sociology and a foreign language class he will never need. If the crap classes were cut out most kids could finish in 2-3 years max.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:35 pm to TejasHorn
Too many kids go to college without an objective of any kind. Their parents view anything other than college as some type of life failure and they want the modern college experience as if it is some kind of right of passage to upper middle class bliss.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:36 pm to TejasHorn
The people who really should be in the student loan business are the colleges and universities, themselves. They all have endowments worth hundreds of millions, up to tens of billions. Let them be the ones to stick their necks out for marginal students, and majors that aren’t worth the tuitions invested.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:37 pm to TejasHorn
Ok so xiden* and his minions want to pay off college student loan debt.
What about the new crop of college students that start this fall majoring in Moron studies ?
What about the new crop of college students that start this fall majoring in Moron studies ?
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:04 pm to TejasHorn
Close college in 5 years we have AI.
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