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re: Man forced to ditch $115K Ford EV truck during family road trip to Chicago

Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:02 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111197 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:02 am to
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i go from 10% to 75% in 15 mins tops which is enough to use bathroom and get drinks

With a couple of young kids and a wife, on a 10 hour road trip we take, I'm not sure we add more than 15-30 minutes total to the trip for charging compared to the years we took our ICE vehicle.

With a wife and young kids, you'll have to make random pee stops, you'll likely stop to sit and eat and not eat while driving with the young ones. In a Tesla, you just charge while you do all of that, so it's not really adding much time to your trips.

Most people think it takes 1 hour to charge, but as you said it's almost always 10-15 minutes max on a road trip. On the 10 hour trip we take, i forget if it's 3 or 4 stops, but like I said, we're having to make at the very least 2 stops any way with the kids, sometimes a 3rd, so you just tie the charging into those stops.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96544 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:07 am to
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Given how many people in the world seem to be pushing the urgency of switching to electric vehicles, it is fair to point out the current shortcomings of electric vehicles.

If you can’t see the point I’m making, then that’s your problem. There is no need to attempt to insult me.


This.

People being able to buy EVs? Fine.

Trying to force people into them via government regulation and social pressure? fricking stupid because it is more expensive and less reliable than ICE simply because it is not a mature technology yet.


Let anyone who wants to drive them get the bugs out of the process. Don’t make it so I can’t drive what I need because someone else thinks that this is a one size fits all solution.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
3838 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:08 am to
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On the family’s first stop in Fargo, North Dakota, it took two hours and $56 to charge his vehicle from 10% to 90%. The charge was good for another 215 miles.


Im literally laughing out loud at this

$56 to go 215 miles

My F150 diesel gets 590 miles per tank highway with a $60.00 fillup
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12735 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:12 am to
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He's in the wrong type of EV.

In a Tesla, the entirety of planning is just putting the address in and clicking "navigate" and the car does all of the work for you, including backup plans if needed(though I've never needed to use one)


Not if he actually needed a truck.

And not being that familiar with the Ford… it does not do that?? Tesla is the only one that displays chargers and necessary stops along the route?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15286 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:16 am to
What special kind of idiot thinks it's a great idea to take a 1400 mile long road trip in a vehicle that gets just over 200 miles a charge and that recharge takes a few hours to complete-----at $26 per hour charge rate.

In those 2 hours I could cover no less than 150 miles of road and be in and out of most service stations in 10 minutes to fill up my truck.

Thes EV's are going to wind up being a massive fail in the long run.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111197 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:17 am to
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Not if he actually needed a truck.

I don't think he needed a truck for that family road trip?
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And not being that familiar with the Ford… it does not do that?? Tesla is the only one that displays chargers and necessary stops along the route?

The issue is that the Ford doesn't have access to the Tesla Supercharger network...yet. An agreement was made and that is coming soon, but as of now, that Ford can't supercharge so the options are much more limited to charge and take MUCH longer.

Main point being as I've stated, if you can't use the Tesla supercharging network, you shouldn't buy an EV if you're going to make road trips in it. It's just not practical.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111197 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:18 am to
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What special kind of idiot thinks it's a great idea to take a 1400 mile long road trip in a vehicle that gets just over 200 miles a charge and that recharge takes a few hours to complete-----at $26 per hour charge rate.

Exactly this
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Thes EV's are going to wind up being a massive fail in the long run.

The non-Teslas you mean.

That is why you are seeing EVs lately strike deals with Tesla to use their supercharging network, and Tesla will use those billions they're receiving to continue to expand the number of superchargers.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12735 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:23 am to
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I don't think he needed a truck for that family road trip?


Well. Being he has more in that truck than most people have in two or three vehicles.. it may be their family vehicle. Article didn’t say. It did say he needed it for his job.

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Tesla Supercharger network...yet. An agreement was made and that is coming soon, but as of now, that Ford can't supercharge so the options are much more limited to charge and take MUCH longer.


Well there is still a problem the other vehicles have.. they don’t have the charging rate the Tesla’s do. So they are just going to wind up having more options, not speed of charge.

Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2008 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:26 am to
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He paid $100k for a Ford with a sub 250 mile range?


Possibly Canadian money?

100k Canadian is around 75,000 US still stupid but not as bad.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 9:44 am
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4953 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:39 am to
Other way around 75k us is 100 cad
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2008 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:45 am to
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Other way around 75k us is 100 cad



Fixed. But this is my point. The prices this guy is stating is more than likely CAD not US so it seems more inflated. Fox News
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12061 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:09 am to
EVs are an example of why Communist totalitarian governments fail.
Freedom, innovation, and utility are the arbiters of successful societies.
Government five year plans never succeed.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
1391 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:10 am to
You should watch the hoodies garage episode about a ford electric truck he and a friend bought together.

Basically winters in Wichita were brutal on the range
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 10:12 am
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12677 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:11 am to
I’m still trying to figure out how this tard spent 10k on a couple chargers.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 10:12 am
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12530 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:12 am to
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Believe they are ending ice engines by 2035 or so, will there be no more cross country trips?

Don’t worry, the electric planes will get you there.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7691 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 1:13 pm to
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doesn't take 2 hours to fill up my truck.
hell, filling up, dropping a deuce, buying something to eat, letting my dog shite in the dog park, etc. all in the same stop doesn't take 2 hours.



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Every supercharging sessions I've ever had in 4 years were wayyyyyyy quicker than it would take to do all of the above.



was replying to the poster blaming the guy's "poor planning" as the reason he had this issue.
but he went to 2 different charging stations that didn't work, and then the 3rd one took 2 hours.

do you have to plan for the above to happen in your electric?
if not, then It's not this guy's "poor planning" that is to blame.

if you do have to plan for the above possibility, then I stand by my post that those aren't problems that you have to plan for with an ICE.
Posted by Squirrelwhisperer
Newellton
Member since Jun 2023
163 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 1:17 pm to
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Believe they are ending ice engines by 2035 or so, will there be no more cross country trips?


That's what our government and the WEF want.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111197 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 1:20 pm to
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do you have to plan for the above to happen in your electric?
No because that won't ever happen to my in my EV.

He's on a different network than I use, THAT is the root of his issue and why he never should have embarked on that type of road trip with that level of, or lack there of, infrastructure for his EV. My EV has a great infrastructure, it'll never take me 2 hours to charge. Hell, 15 minutes max is all I need.
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if you do have to plan for the above possibility, then I stand by my post that those aren't problems that you have to plan for with an ICE.

They're definitely not problems you have to plan for with an ICE. But they're also not problems you have to plan for if on the Tesla supercharging network, unless you're going to very rural areas.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10783 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 1:21 pm to
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Believe they are ending ice engines by 2035 or so, will there be no more cross country trips?


This is the plan, they want us all to live in 15 minute cities
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111197 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 1:22 pm to
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This is the plan
It's the plan, it's what they want, it's complete nonsense that they want to mandate it, but it'll also never ever ever happen by 2035 or any time near after that.
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