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re: Great Video "Are athletes really getting bigger, faster, stronger?"
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:16 am to BowlJackson
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:16 am to BowlJackson
What a great series of posts
Just say damn you got me, take the loss, and move on.
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Why do you just assume they didn’t watch the video? Maybe your video is just dumb
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Because the video is 15 minutes long and people were shite posting 6 minutes after the OP was posted.
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So I have to watch every second of the 15 min video or there’s no way to understand the point they’re trying to make?
Just say damn you got me, take the loss, and move on.
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:18 am to Deactived
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Just say damn you got me, take the loss, and move on.
I was waiting for some bullshite like "Uh, I watched it on 2X".
I guess he didn't think of that one.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:24 am to Ernest T Bass
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How many running backs today are bigger/faster/stronger than Bo Jackson & Herschel Walker ?
None of that matters when a 260 pound center is staring at a 350 pound nose tackle who is faster than him.
The really big guys today are significantly bigger and more freakishly athletic than the really big guys in any other era.
1971 Nebraska/Oklahoma, widely considered one of the great college games of all time between two legendary teams, is available to watch on YouTube. Nebraska won that game. Their starting offensive line across the board averaged about 240-250 pounds per man. Fifty years later, the 2021 Georgia defensive line had four main guys who all weighed 300 pounds at minimum and were all way faster and stronger than anyone on the 1971 Nebraska OL.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:31 am to Ernest T Bass
You coem across as someone who thinks Babe Ruth hit a 580 foot home run
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:31 am to Ernest T Bass
All the players you mentioned could all play
Today… in the NFL I call the past as being from 1970 back. After the 70’s a lot of players could play in todays game with the proper nutrition.. same with baseball. I’ll go from the 1950 and back.
Today… in the NFL I call the past as being from 1970 back. After the 70’s a lot of players could play in todays game with the proper nutrition.. same with baseball. I’ll go from the 1950 and back.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:31 am to Ernest T Bass
Counter argument, HGH.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:35 am to VADawg
I love when LeBatard and Cowherd shite on Ruth like some on here. Ruth was born 34 years after The Civil War ended, he’s was massive for that time period. Yet, when comparing they act like Ruth would be the same size if he was born in the 21st Century. But, yeah Babe Ruth would suck today like Bill Russell (another favorite comparison of the two above idiots).
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:37 am to JackVincennes
Also, I’d like to see Acuna with no helmet the first time a pitcher threw at his head to get him off the plate. Just sayin
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:38 am to JackVincennes
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:45 am to WestCoastAg
I drive a ton and listen to sports talk radio and this always comes up.
It seems to always be drop Babe Ruth in today's line-up using a time machine and Trout in their line up.
There is never a conversation around Trout being born in 1930 with his exact genetics and Ruth born in 1990.
The changes in would be insane. Trout at 15 getting 900 calories a day and never seeing a personal travel ball coach versus Ruth with supplements, individual coaches, and strength programs. We will never know but the pure time machine argument seems superficial.
It seems to always be drop Babe Ruth in today's line-up using a time machine and Trout in their line up.
There is never a conversation around Trout being born in 1930 with his exact genetics and Ruth born in 1990.
The changes in would be insane. Trout at 15 getting 900 calories a day and never seeing a personal travel ball coach versus Ruth with supplements, individual coaches, and strength programs. We will never know but the pure time machine argument seems superficial.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:47 am to JackVincennes
The pitch would almost certainly be slow enough for him to either hit it or leisurely get out of the way.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:48 am to Rsande63
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Trout at 15 getting 900 calories a day and never seeing a personal travel ball coach
Then drinking like a fish like plenty of the major leaguers did all the way into some of our lifetimes
Posted on 7/30/23 at 12:10 pm to Ernest T Bass
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I read an article a few years ago where scientists claimed that your average farmer from centuries ago had the equivalent strength of todays "strong men" powerlifters etc. They based this on their bone size/density & the insane heavy lifting they did in farming methods back then
what you’re doing is funny as shite but also mean as hell to all the old dudes in this thread eating this up 
Posted on 7/30/23 at 12:15 pm to TigerintheNO
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The Washington Redskins' fabled “Hogs” offensive line from 1982 weighed an average of 280.2 pounds.
Last season, (2017) the average Washington lineman weighed 321.4 pounds.
Carbs and seed oils, obviously
Posted on 7/30/23 at 12:15 pm to Ernest T Bass
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How many running backs today are bigger/faster/stronger than Bo Jackson & Herschel Walker ? I'm guessing zero. How many corners are faster than Deion & Darrel Green ? How many WR's are faster than Bob Hayes ? How many LB's are bigger/faster/stronger than Lawrence Taylor ?
Yo my guy doesnt understand outliers and averages.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 12:34 pm to Ernest T Bass
Some athletes, like any other field, transcend eras and are just different. Can't lump older legends into the current standard of everyone being described as "generational" or "great". We are debunking our own creations based on language that has different meanings than originally intended or that actually fit the meaning. It's a simple form of God complex. Spend generations propping it up then the next few tearing it down. Humanity is insanity.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 12:44 pm to Ernest T Bass
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They debunk the myth of athletes getting bigger/faster/stronger.
Jesse Owens running on cinder, without starting blocks etc was obvious.
Some of the others I was not aware of.
I've always argued this, and thought that it's illogical to think that all of the greatest athletes in history just happened to be born in the last 30 years.
I don't think you can have this conversation today without being brutally honest. PEDs matter. And in sports, it matters a lot.
Look at the guys and gals in gyms today. They make Arnold's generation of bodybuilders look like ants. And the definition is crazy for their size. Better PEDs friends.
Look at the starlets in their 50s looking better than women could look in bikinis in their 20s. They want to tell you it's Jenne Craig when it's HGH. Not natural. Then take a hard look at the Hollywood guys who are ripped and huge in their action pictures. Couldn't happen and didn't happen in the 60s, 70s, or 80s. Rent the movies and prove me wrong.
I know it's a bummer to think and assume all these athletes are going natural, but that has never been the name of the game. The same is true with your favorite gym, high school football team, and your crazy-built neighbors who tell you it's only good genetics. Baloney. This world loves to bullshite the naive. Don't be that guy.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 1:04 pm to VADawg
Depends on position. Linebackers are about the same size.
Miami hurricanes were recruiting 4.3 receivers in the 80s and 90s
Miami hurricanes were recruiting 4.3 receivers in the 80s and 90s
Posted on 7/30/23 at 1:09 pm to Ernest T Bass
It’s impossible to say that current day advances in nutrition and strength-training has not made athletes bigger, faster and stronger.
It will be the same 30 years into the future. This generation will be smaller, weaker, and slower.
In the time of Jesse Owens, strength training basically didn’t exist for most athletes. They had no clue about what we know now.
It doesn’t mean he wasn’t a generational athlete, considering what he had.
It will be the same 30 years into the future. This generation will be smaller, weaker, and slower.
In the time of Jesse Owens, strength training basically didn’t exist for most athletes. They had no clue about what we know now.
It doesn’t mean he wasn’t a generational athlete, considering what he had.
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/30/23 at 1:17 pm to Deuces
You nailed it.
Put those 1970's linemen on today's weights and gym time, you will see similar results. Nebraska had a huge advantage because of its weight room. Now everyone competitive has one. Just imagine John Hannah going through today's strength and nutrition, with his technique, he would still be unstoppable.
Also, some of that can be deceptive. You can look at Miami and FSU from 80's and 90's and say oh, their linemen were small. Um, no, they were going for speed over size. Would add weight to fast LB's and make them DE's, etc.
Put those 1970's linemen on today's weights and gym time, you will see similar results. Nebraska had a huge advantage because of its weight room. Now everyone competitive has one. Just imagine John Hannah going through today's strength and nutrition, with his technique, he would still be unstoppable.
Also, some of that can be deceptive. You can look at Miami and FSU from 80's and 90's and say oh, their linemen were small. Um, no, they were going for speed over size. Would add weight to fast LB's and make them DE's, etc.
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