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Need help with this WWI Victory Medal we found

Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Kmit58
Member since Dec 2020
92 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:43 pm
Maybe this is the wrong forum but I trust someone here can give me some hints.
My buddy and I have been metal detecting an old yard where he found a WWI Victory medal. Stenciled/stamped on the edge is 190168 PTE D.H.McPherson 4-C.M.R.
Not sure I got the spacing exactly right but he'd like to identify the guy and maybe track down the family. From what I read the recipient's name, rank, service number and unit were impressed on the edge of the medal.
Anyone able to tell me how best to track this family d own?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30329 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:45 pm to
Wow. That's an awesome find and this thread has some serious potential.

I'm of no help, but may WWII Collector or Antique Tiger can get you pointed in the right direction.
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
3594 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:48 pm to
Pics?
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
176759 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:48 pm to
where r u?
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6708 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:50 pm to
Postimage is easy to use if you don’t know how to post pictures, I’d really like to see this medal.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
5021 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:53 pm to
4th Canadian mounted rifles might be what the cmr stands for.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51060 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:56 pm to
Awesome find, and good on y'all for trying to locate the owner.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
5021 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 8:59 pm to
190168 would be the regiment number.
Fairly confident he was a Canadian military man, 4th brigade. Google search picked up a few things.
Posted by NavyLSUAlum
Portland Oregon
Member since Oct 2005
749 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:02 pm to


MCPHERSON, DOUGLAS HERMAN
Date Of Birth 1897-06-16
Regimental Number 190168
Reference Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF), RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 7180 - 15

Here is the basic info on him.
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8294 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:27 pm to
ETA: These are the names of his grandchildren. In 2018 they lived in Montana.

Harold Walter "Butch" Ziolkowski Jr.
Peter Michael Ziolkowski
Timothy Allen Ziolkowski
James Raymond Ziolkowski
Joseph Paul Ziolkowski
Etoile Denise Gies

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LINK

Douglas Herman “Mac” McPherson

BIRTH
16 Jun 1898
St. Thomas, Elgin County, Ontario, Canada

DEATH
24 Jul 1985 (aged 87)
Great Falls, Cascade County, Montana, USA

BURIAL
Calvary Cemetery
Lewistown, Fergus County, Montana, USA

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This is his daughter, passed away in 2011. According to this he has six grandchildren.

LEWISTOWN - Etoile Irene (McPherson) Ziolkowski, 76, who was known as a devoted homemaker and spiritual light for her family, was active in numerous community and church activities and enjoyed gardening, birding, quilting, collecting angels, stars and special stones, and traveling with her husband to Dixieland concerts and dances, died of undetermined natural causes Thursday, July 14, in Lewistown.
Survivors include her husband of 54 years, 6 children, a sister, a brother, a half-brother, 13 grandchildren and six great-grandchildren.

Complete obituary published in Great Falls Tribune on July 19, 2011

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She was married to

Harold Walter “Doc” Ziolkowski, 86, passed into the arms of his Lord and Savior on Jan. 17, 2018. Harry was born in Goodman, Wisconsin, on Aug. 22, 1931 to Walter and Mary Ziolkowski.

He worked various jobs following graduation from Goodman High School (1949), before joining the U.S. Air Force, rising to the rank of sergeant, and was stationed in Billings, Montana, where he met the love of his life, and future wife, Etoile Irene McPherson

Children, Harold Walter "Butch" Ziolkowski Jr., Peter Michael Ziolkowski, Timothy Allen Ziolkowski, James Raymond Ziolkowski, Joseph Paul Ziolkowski, and Etoile Denise Gies, all of Montana.






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Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39462 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 9:32 pm to
He joined the military at 18 years and 9 months. He was 5'09" with fair skin, dk brown hair and blue eyes. He was from Ontario.

Joining up paperwork
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7158 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 10:57 pm to
Sorry I can't help. My knowledge on medals and ribbons is very limited.

Amazing research.. outstanding.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56188 posts
Posted on 6/17/23 at 11:58 pm to
This site never ceases to amaze me!
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8218 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:59 am to
Kind of cool that you found the medal or at least posted this thread on basically his birthday
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
55117 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:03 am to
Need 2 things to give a proper response

#1 pics (front and back) of medal

#2 pics of your wife
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14355 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:07 am to
I was going to suggest submitting a story about this to “Western & Eastern Treasures” metal detecting magazine. They loved to publish stories about returning old high school rings, etc to the families of the original owners. Sadly, it looks like W&E Treasures stopped publication (digital; hard copy stopped a while back) after 57 years.

Regardless, Im sure there are sites that would be happy to publish this story after it unfolds. Take pics, etc and document things as you go along.
Posted by One72
Member since Jul 2022
732 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Maybe this is the wrong forum but I trust someone here can give me some hints.


This is the way.

Posted by Kmit58
Member since Dec 2020
92 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:14 pm to
Now that Father's Day is over, I reached out to one of the family. If I don't get a reply or phone call in a couple of days, I'll try a different one.

I'll also attempt the pics sometime this week. Benny's got them posted on a metal detecting Facebook group.
Posted by Kmit58
Member since Dec 2020
92 posts
Posted on 6/18/23 at 10:47 pm to
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Posted on 6/19/23 at 1:34 am to
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